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Saving the world by exploiting Tesla factory workers seems equally impossible.
by guard-of-terra 10y ago
Saving the world by exploiting Tesla factory workers seems equally impossible.
- Dylan16807 10y agoYes, that's true, it's very unlikely it helps Tesla much in the first place. But if it could be done it would at least be worth having a discussion about the pros and cons.
- guard-of-terra 10y agoI think the solution here is Human Rights and also Immanuel Kant's Categorical Imperative. You can't use people as slaves unless situation is so that everybody has to become slave. Also, you can't use people as a tool (without their consent). There's not much to discuss. We've been there already with Hitler's Work Camps and Stalin's GULAG Camps.
- Dylan16807 10y ago> You can't use people as slaves unless situation is so that everybody has to become slave. Also, you can't use people as a tool (without their consent). > There's not much to discuss. Since it's just an unrealistic though experiment, I wouldn't dismiss out of hand the idea of "enslaving" everyone for a short time for some kind of amazing outcome. > We've been there already with Hitler's Work Camps and Stalin's GULAG Camps. Ha. No. Neither of those gave enormous benefits to the world. And they killed people, not just put them through unpleasant working conditions. Completely noncomparable.
- guard-of-terra 10y agoWell, Stalin used GULAG to dig river channels (Moscow channel for example), design planes and rockets. He just replaced HR department with arrest squads. One can argue he had quite similar result in mind to the proposed electric-vechicle-enabling indentured servitude. I don't think it would be excusable even if he avoided killing people while defaulting to raping and beating the crap out of them.