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Show HN: KISS IDE – A simple web based IDE

56 points by tcarey83 10y ago

glup 10y ago
humorously, this makes the front page of HN the day I try out Eclipse Che, at the other end of the spectrum. http://www.eclipse.org/che/ http://www.eclipse.org/che/
- qhoc 10y ago
  Have you tried the on premise IDE https://www.eclipse.org/che/docs/setup/getting-started/ https://www.eclipse.org/che/docs/setup/getting-started/ ? It's kinda cool but I don't see any pricing. Awesome if it is free!
  - gravypod 10y ago
    It is free but the IDE isn't exactly finished yet.
- was_boring 10y ago
  I've been playing around with koding, which I believe offers a similar toolset. That said, their documentation is lacking, and broken links abound. I hope they get their act together soon, or they are doomed as the on boarding and troubleshooting experience is terrible.
- nkkollaw 10y ago
  That looks a lot better than the regular Eclipse IDE. What's the story..?
amelius 10y ago
The ultimate "KISS" IDE for me is vim :) But nice try!
- thealistra 10y ago
  how is vim simple?
  - sametmax 10y ago
    Vim is simple. It's just no easy.
  - ferbivore 10y ago
    Well, the competition is Emacs.
dorianm 10y ago
Reminds me of Geany, my go-to lightweight IDE before I switched to Sublime, then vim: https://www.geany.org https://www.geany.org
shakna 10y ago
If it wasn't so reliant on Apache or PHP I'd be more willing to try it out. Unfortunately, I've experienced nearly every nightmare with the two, thanks to work, bad code, and absent documentation. I don't want them on my machine. Any plans for a self-contained bundle?
- stephenr 10y ago
  It sounds like it's written in PHP, so dependency isn't likely to go away, but it specifically says it should work fine with a server other than apache. As for your specific issues, I find it hard to follow your complaint when it comes to docs. Both php and apache httpd projects have extensive, easy to follow documentation.
  - shakna 10y ago
    I realise PHP can't go away, hence "self-contained bundle". The docs I referenced are not the official documentation, but rather mind-bendingly bad systems I've had to deal with that were undocumented. PHP isn't necessarily bad. But bad experiences mean I hate it. Hide the PHP in a nice self-contained system, and I won't care, plus it'll simplify install/setup.
    - stephenr 10y ago
      > PHP isn't necessarily bad. But bad experiences mean I hate it. It sounds like those experiences were the fault of the developers not some intrinsic issue with the language itself. (i.e. its not like say "i hate flash because its a security shit-fueled nightmare"). Either way, the system currently has an "install script" and aims to develop deb/rpm/etc packages to achieve the same result, which seems like it's what you want.
      - shakna 10y ago
        Snaps would be more along the lines of what I'm suggesting. Using the system package manager still pulls down dependencies I don't want system-wide.

56 points by tcarey83 10y ago

glup 10y ago

humorously, this makes the front page of HN the day I try out Eclipse Che, at the other end of the spectrum. http://www.eclipse.org/che/ http://www.eclipse.org/che/

qhoc 10y ago
Have you tried the on premise IDE https://www.eclipse.org/che/docs/setup/getting-started/ https://www.eclipse.org/che/docs/setup/getting-started/ ? It's kinda cool but I don't see any pricing. Awesome if it is free!
- gravypod 10y ago
  It is free but the IDE isn't exactly finished yet.
was_boring 10y ago
I've been playing around with koding, which I believe offers a similar toolset. That said, their documentation is lacking, and broken links abound. I hope they get their act together soon, or they are doomed as the on boarding and troubleshooting experience is terrible.
nkkollaw 10y ago
That looks a lot better than the regular Eclipse IDE. What's the story..?

amelius 10y ago

The ultimate "KISS" IDE for me is vim :) But nice try!

thealistra 10y ago
how is vim simple?
- sametmax 10y ago
  Vim is simple. It's just no easy.
- ferbivore 10y ago
  Well, the competition is Emacs.

dorianm 10y ago

Reminds me of Geany, my go-to lightweight IDE before I switched to Sublime, then vim: https://www.geany.org https://www.geany.org

shakna 10y ago

If it wasn't so reliant on Apache or PHP I'd be more willing to try it out. Unfortunately, I've experienced nearly every nightmare with the two, thanks to work, bad code, and absent documentation. I don't want them on my machine. Any plans for a self-contained bundle?

stephenr 10y ago
It sounds like it's written in PHP, so dependency isn't likely to go away, but it specifically says it should work fine with a server other than apache. As for your specific issues, I find it hard to follow your complaint when it comes to docs. Both php and apache httpd projects have extensive, easy to follow documentation.
- shakna 10y ago
  I realise PHP can't go away, hence "self-contained bundle". The docs I referenced are not the official documentation, but rather mind-bendingly bad systems I've had to deal with that were undocumented. PHP isn't necessarily bad. But bad experiences mean I hate it. Hide the PHP in a nice self-contained system, and I won't care, plus it'll simplify install/setup.
  - stephenr 10y ago
    > PHP isn't necessarily bad. But bad experiences mean I hate it. It sounds like those experiences were the fault of the developers not some intrinsic issue with the language itself. (i.e. its not like say "i hate flash because its a security shit-fueled nightmare"). Either way, the system currently has an "install script" and aims to develop deb/rpm/etc packages to achieve the same result, which seems like it's what you want.
    - shakna 10y ago
      Snaps would be more along the lines of what I'm suggesting. Using the system package manager still pulls down dependencies I don't want system-wide.