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Keep in mind that you'd need to drink about 1 gallon of green tea every day (which would cause nausea and pain) to have an increase in the EGCG levels in your b
by ucaetano 10y ago
Keep in mind that you'd need to drink about 1 gallon of green tea every day (which would cause nausea and pain) to have an increase in the EGCG levels in your blood of less than 60%.
http://clincancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/9/9/3312.long http://clincancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/9/9/3312.long
So it seems unlikely that drinking green tea would be a viable treatment.
- mhurron 10y agoThis is sort of the reason we invented pills.
- ucaetano 10y agoExactly! But sadly, a lot of people will read the headlines as "if I drink green tea, I'm preventing bone-marrow diseases".
- mhurron 10y agoPills packaging powdered remains of fruits sell very well, I'm sure people will be fine.
- ucaetano 10y agoI wouldn't be so sure: https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/01/fda-confirms-toxicity-of-homeopathic-baby-products-maker-refuses-to-recall/ https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/01/fda-confirms-toxicit... "After investigating reports that more than 400 babies were sickened and 10 died in connection with homeopathic teething products, the Food and Drug Administration confirmed Friday that it had indeed found elevated levels of the toxic substance, belladonna, in the products."
- baldfat 10y agoKIDNEY STONES if they contain the tea leaf. Now green and white teas have catechins which may help break down kidney stones but those are break down when exposed to oxygen or sunlight.
- QUFB 10y agoAnd there are at least 60 cases of liver damage, including many fatalities, caused by Green Tea extract: http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/green-tea-extract-diet-cbc-marketplace-1.3964073 http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/green-tea-extract-diet-cbc-mar...
- samstave 10y agoWhat about Tumeric extract and also intravenous vitamin-C?
- X86BSD 10y agoActually your statement is false. I drank a gallon of green tea for years before switching to a gallon of white tea every day. I've never been nauseated or had pain from that. Ever. I pee every 20 minutes but it's never made me sick.
- marricks 10y agoIs this serious? If so, any particular reason why you did?
- X86BSD 10y agoI started this well over a decade ago, perhaps 20 years? The average person does not get NEARLY enough water per day. That was one reason, but the main reason was I knew about the anti-cancer affects of green tea as well as other healthy effects. And over the years I had nurses and medical doctors in my family tell me white tea was healthier for you that green tea. Lower caffeine, more of the same compounds and benefits green tea had. So I switched over to white tea. I am still drinking a gallon each day. Will I still get cancer? Maybe. But it won't be from a lack of doing everything I can to prevent it.
- DanBC 10y ago> But it won't be from a lack of doing everything I can to prevent it. You eat a large quantity of red meat and processed red meat. That increases your risk of cancer.
- jessaustin 10y agoWat? How do you know OP's protein preferences? [EDIT:] ...wow. Just, wow. Do you use a spreadsheet to track the dietary preferences of various HN commentators, or do you have a frighteningly effective memory?
- DanBC 10y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11947340#11948143 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11947340#11948143 > Ive been an atkins follower for... 20 years. I eat mostly meat.
- vanattab 10y ago>Keep in mind that you'd need to drink about 1 gallon of green tea every day (which would cause nausea and pain) I might not drink a gallon but I get close. If you find you get nauseous after a couple of cups of tea (green tea especially) your probably brewing the tea too hot or for too long. Overdoing ether will let tasty bitter tasting ND nauseating componds to leach. 170F deg is about perfect for most green teas. Higher for blacks.
- ucaetano 10y agoThe nausea and pain is mostly due to the caffeine intake. After you're addicted, that largely goes away.
- drzaiusapelord 10y agoSo about 7-8 of these per day: https://www.amazon.com/NOW-Foods-Green-Extract-400mg/dp/B001DNV5CA?th=1 https://www.amazon.com/NOW-Foods-Green-Extract-400mg/dp/B001... For the nootropic and supplement crowd adding something like this would be trivial to swallow and manufacturers will probably start selling more potent pills if the market demands it. Its also interesting to know the the 'miracle' supplement theanine is also a green tea derivative. Every stack I've seen on nootropic forums seem to contain it, especially as it cancels out the overly stimulating effects of caffeine, but leaves the focus effects in. I wonder what more secrets green tea leaves hold and if they're more than partly responsible for Japan's impressive longevity.
- sweettea 10y agoI too drink 1-2 gallons of green tea per day. I drink looseleaf exclusively, with a supplier who's checked on fluoride levels for me, and find I stay hydrated and happy much better on this specific (tamaryokucha) green tea than on any other caffeine source.
- samstave 10y agoI find your mention of fluoride interesting... I have always wondered (just because I am curious) how one could actually avoid intake of any fluoride given the many types of fluids humans can drink; are all beer crafters using fluoridated waters? Wine makers? Soda? Every bottled water? Juices? What drinks can be verifiably lacking fluoridation?
- semi-extrinsic 10y agoA used Milli-Q system (makes ultra-pure deionized water for scientific research) is only a few hundred bucks on ebay. Mind you, drinking water deionized to such levels will actually accelerate teeth decay, and has been shown to give organ damage and other unpleasant side effects in mice who were given it for long term consumption. Though I suppose you could go through the hassle of deionizing the water, and then adding back just the ions you trust (Ca, Na, Mg, Cl, etc.). For a more pragmatic approach, you could just limit yourself to bottled water, beer and wine imported from Europe; >99% of all European drinking water is non-fluoridated.
- Neliquat 10y agoIt depends, many water sources are naturally flurodated to levels equal to treated systems. At least 3 cities I know of in the USA regularly add no additional fluoride to meet standard levels.
- ayu 10y agoConsider co-supplementation with quercetin, which increases the bioavailability of green tea catechins. https://examine.com/supplements/green-tea-catechins/?PageSpeed=noscript#summary15-4 https://examine.com/supplements/green-tea-catechins/?PageSpe...