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Contract Economy: There is still a significant opportunity for a Freelancer/Upwork group to exist. Something that better vets quality while not pushing for Topt

Contract Economy: There is still a significant opportunity for a Freelancer/Upwork group to exist. Something that better vets quality while not pushing for Toptal prices. I suspect you'd need to set up physical presence in the likely countries properly vet and control quality but this could easily be covered by a premium for a know quantity vs going to western rates. Crytpo Currency: There is room for more disruption here. I suspect a currency that is both trackable and backed by a pool of commodities/currencies could be quite popular. Traceable would make theft risk reduced as money could effectively be returned if it is stolen and being backed/hedged by currencies/commodities would help with confidence. Cargo: I'm surprised we haven't seen electric cargo ships. Even combine solar with sail as winds are favorable. This combined with auto-navigation (at least between ports) seems more easily achievable than cars yet technology is further behind. Dockable Phone to PC (physical or even better if wireless dock): Surprised no-one has done this well yet. I can image whoever does this with really take ownership of the OS space. I always felt this could be the best route for Microsoft to re-enter the mobile space with force.

nradov 10y ago
Cargo ships don't have enough free surface area to mount the number of solar panels that would be needed for propulsion. Sails are already being used on a few ships but they only save a small percentage of fuel.
- loeber 10y ago
  I'd like to add that cargo ships, while being very efficient in terms of how much they can transport over a unit distance given unit energy, require enormous amounts of energy. See some resources: - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_efficiency_in_transportation#Ships https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_efficiency_in_transport... - https://people.hofstra.edu/geotrans/eng/ch8en/conc8en/fuel_consumption_containerships.html https://people.hofstra.edu/geotrans/eng/ch8en/conc8en/fuel_c...
- Gustomaximus 10y ago
  I wouldn't write it off. There could be could add battery storage to be used during the journey. They could include wind turbines to add further power generation. Also ships can go slower. In my limited knowledge of boats every extra knot takes significantly extra fuel. If we were bringing multiple power sources 'slow' cargo may be viable. And the has to be other ways to increase this function. And there is always hybrid. Not all power has to be renewable sources. A solution could start with supplementing diesel driven thrust with some lower cost green power. Given diesel is 70% of shipping operating cost that seems a potential option.
  - pyromine 10y ago
    I think the number one obstacle to this is it would be nowhere near viable from the costs perspective. No one really wants to build cargo ships right now, shipping companies are barely staying afloat right now because there is a glut of cargo capacity. This technology would need to be cheap enough that it would make sense to retrofit a ship with it... which would probably not be the case for a very long time. I do think it's a very thought provoking idea however.
    - cvarjas 10y ago
      I was under the impression that cargo capacity is currently expanding. Maersk is taking delivery of 11 new ships within the next year and a half: http://theloadstar.co.uk/maersk-refines-fleet-second-generation-triple-e-box-ships-carry-20000-teu/ http://theloadstar.co.uk/maersk-refines-fleet-second-generat...
      - RyanZAG 10y ago
        Those ships were ordered a long time ago.
      - hectormalot 10y ago
        I'm under the impression that both are true. There is overcapacity in the shipping market, which drives down prices. Because prices are low, shippers are investing in ever larger (more efficient) vessels, in order to turn a profit. This in turn leads to more overcapacity, which leads to a drive for even larger and more efficient ships. It's a type of 'tragedy of commons' situation, where every shipping company is making the right decisions from their individual perspective, but collectively they're driving themselves into the ground. For me this explains the rise of slow-steaming. It makes a lot of sense in this market because it lowers the cost of shipping a container (less fuel), while simultaneously reducing the market capacity (# of containers / year). Finally, very few shipping companies make money on the major lines (e.g. China to Europe), because it's pure price competition. They're much more likely to make money in places where they have a 'monopoly' on something: e.g. being the only ship that leaves in the next 3 days, or being the only shipper going to a specific location. For example inter-Africa shipping falls in this category.
- yellowapple 10y ago
  I suspect nuclear (be it fission or - someday - fusion) would be much more viable for powering something at that scale in a "post-petroleum" scenario. There already are a couple fission-powered cargo ships out there, IIRC. The problem is that safe disposal of nuclear fuel is nontrivial.
  - nradov 10y ago
    There are bigger problems with nuclear powered cargo ships than just waste disposal. They would need larger crews of highly trained (more expensive) experts to operate the reactor. Look at how much the US Navy spends to train competent technicians and engineers. Every nuclear powered ship becomes a prime terrorist target, either to hijack it or destroy it in place and cause a radiological incident. So you also need constant armed security (also expensive). A more practical way to have "nuclear powered" ships would be to use electric power from land based nuclear plants to manufacture synthetic hydrocarbon liquid fuels, then load that fuel on the ships. Nuclear plants on land are far more cost effective since they can be built much larger to achieve economies of scale on operations and security.
    - freehunter 10y ago
      On the subject of highly trained nuclear operators from the Navy, what's the job market look like for those guys after they leave the service? Where else are you going to find a nuclear-powered ship where you can put your experience to work? Seems like a natural fit. For almost everything in the military, IMO there should be some market in the private space that could use those skills.
      - nradov 10y ago
        Some of them stay 30 years in the service and then retire. Others go to work for civilian nuclear power plants, or the vendors which service and supply them. And there aren't very many trained operators to begin with. The US Navy has <90 nuclear powered vessels (plus a few separate reactors for training and research).
- mrfusion 10y ago
  Why not have solar modules in a shipping container form factor. (Maybe shorter in height though) and stack those at the top layer when loading the ship. You could probably even find some ingenious way to run the current through the containers stacked umderneath to route the power. They are made of metal.
  - nradov 10y ago
    Shipping companies don't own the containers. Solar panels would get broken when they were transferred to shore. Panels and cabling would add more weight to the highest level of the cargo stacks: the worst place for ship stability. And even if you covered the entire top level with solar panels it still wouldn't provide enough propulsion power to be worth the expense.
g00gler 10y ago
Asus and Motorola have made dockable phones. https://www.engadget.com/products/motorola/atrix-4g-lapdock/ https://www.engadget.com/products/motorola/atrix-4g-lapdock/ https://www.engadget.com/products/asus/transformer/book/v/ https://www.engadget.com/products/asus/transformer/book/v/
- asafira 10y ago
  I believe that is why he/she said they haven't seen someone do this well yet...
  - Gustomaximus 10y ago
    Absolutely. I've looked at the solutions so far by Ubuntu, MS and Android (Andromium app). None have floated my boat. I feel its like Palm vs. iPhone. Sure Palm was earlier to market with a reasonable solution, but someone needed to nail it.
    - g00gler 10y ago
      How would this look to you? I was thinking recently that I'd like a liberated Android, found CopperheadOS, but I'm still not sure I'd like to use it on the desktop.
innocentoldguy 10y ago
The problem with using sails is speed. On average, cargo ships travel approximately three to four times faster than sailing ships (20 to 24 knots vs. 5 to 8 knots).
- Gustomaximus 10y ago
  I came across this article that said they are often slower, the larger cargo ships at least. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2010/jul/25/slow-ships-cut-greenhouse-emissions https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2010/jul/25/slow-shi...
morgante 10y ago
> Something that better vets quality while not pushing for Toptal prices. Why do you think this is possible? That's pretty much exactly what Toptal or other premium shops like Gigster do: vet remote developers to ensure high quality. The idea that you can get great developers from India for rock-bottom rates is mostly a fallacy.
- pmontra 10y ago
  Don't know about Gigster but the first step of Toptal's vetting process is about solving algorithmic puzzles. That's probably inevitable because they need something that scales. However it's so different from what developers do at work that its relationship to quality is very weak. Actually, it could be negatively related because I would have excelled at those puzzles at university, exactly when I didn't have the expertise to write good software. And the one or two of times per year when I have to solve a puzzle I take my time and solve it. Maybe slower but the rest of my work is so much better that it more than makes up for that. Want a better vetting quality? Look at previous work and read code. It doesn't scale unless you put more people at that but maybe somebody can think about an AI for that.
- xiaoma 10y ago
  I see Toptal as more of a body shop. 10x is the premium provider.
- asenna 10y ago
  > The idea that you can get great developers from India for rock-bottom rates is mostly a fallacy. Yes, at rock-bottom rates(< $25/hr), it is. But >$25/hr starts becoming good money for local Indian developers and you can start comparing them to the good developers in the west (>$50/hr). That's just my opinion having worked in the industry for a while and seen both sides of that market.
bluebknight 10y ago
> Dockable Phone to PC Microsoft has done this already but thanks to their poor marketing and crappy Windows phones, no one even knows about it.
Brajeshwar 10y ago
I had the same thoughts for the Contract Economy for quite a while. I'm on a "Startup break", and started a Service Firm. While working with clients, we realized the need to serve a rather underserved section of projects, which are high enough for individual freelancers or even a small team but too low for established agencies - the $100,000 to $1M projects. We're experimenting with some of our clients and their connections, to work with our service/marketplace where we manage the project end-to-end to make sure it is done, with other vetted teams of designers and developers. It is not 'cheap' but much more economical than traditional Agencies. We're Beta Testing it with a small set of clients for now. For those curious, we have a sign-up page at http://www.worksigma.com/ http://www.worksigma.com/
- asenna 10y ago
  Could you elaborate a bit on this. Looking at the site, I'm not sure how this is different from a traditional Consulting firm.
  - Brajeshwar 10y ago
    Our Service/Consulting firm's core focus is UI/UX Designs, and Frontend Engineering. We tend to get quite a bit of incoming work that are not in our core focus. We started working with other partners. We either know these partners or are introduced to us. We interview them, talked to them, worked with them (vetting them). Our clients know that they can go on a vacation while we work on their projects. They wanted that same experience while working with the partners that we introduced. So, we end up handling the client's project and make sure it gets done via these partners. Work Sigma is borne out of this patterns, and process that we followed. We want to grow this, formalize it, and be able to provide a good service to clients and make them happy. One of the marketing taglines that we tossed around our team is, "Agency in the Cloud". btw, A friend told me there is something similar at UpWork - https://www.upwork.com/pro/ https://www.upwork.com/pro/. This is nice - the market is tested and proven.
eb0la 10y ago
Dockable Phone to PC: I agree there is market there. I was on a project about this some time ago and the limiting factor was all the cable mess that cluttered your desk. Women loved the product because it meant _far_less_ weight on their purses. Both men and women wanted something didn't cluttered their work desks (and I understand them ;-)

nradov 10y ago

Cargo ships don't have enough free surface area to mount the number of solar panels that would be needed for propulsion. Sails are already being used on a few ships but they only save a small percentage of fuel.

loeber 10y ago
I'd like to add that cargo ships, while being very efficient in terms of how much they can transport over a unit distance given unit energy, require enormous amounts of energy. See some resources: - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_efficiency_in_transportation#Ships https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_efficiency_in_transport... - https://people.hofstra.edu/geotrans/eng/ch8en/conc8en/fuel_consumption_containerships.html https://people.hofstra.edu/geotrans/eng/ch8en/conc8en/fuel_c...
Gustomaximus 10y ago
I wouldn't write it off. There could be could add battery storage to be used during the journey. They could include wind turbines to add further power generation. Also ships can go slower. In my limited knowledge of boats every extra knot takes significantly extra fuel. If we were bringing multiple power sources 'slow' cargo may be viable. And the has to be other ways to increase this function. And there is always hybrid. Not all power has to be renewable sources. A solution could start with supplementing diesel driven thrust with some lower cost green power. Given diesel is 70% of shipping operating cost that seems a potential option.
- pyromine 10y ago
  I think the number one obstacle to this is it would be nowhere near viable from the costs perspective. No one really wants to build cargo ships right now, shipping companies are barely staying afloat right now because there is a glut of cargo capacity. This technology would need to be cheap enough that it would make sense to retrofit a ship with it... which would probably not be the case for a very long time. I do think it's a very thought provoking idea however.
  - cvarjas 10y ago
    I was under the impression that cargo capacity is currently expanding. Maersk is taking delivery of 11 new ships within the next year and a half: http://theloadstar.co.uk/maersk-refines-fleet-second-generation-triple-e-box-ships-carry-20000-teu/ http://theloadstar.co.uk/maersk-refines-fleet-second-generat...
    - RyanZAG 10y ago
      Those ships were ordered a long time ago.
    - hectormalot 10y ago
      I'm under the impression that both are true. There is overcapacity in the shipping market, which drives down prices. Because prices are low, shippers are investing in ever larger (more efficient) vessels, in order to turn a profit. This in turn leads to more overcapacity, which leads to a drive for even larger and more efficient ships. It's a type of 'tragedy of commons' situation, where every shipping company is making the right decisions from their individual perspective, but collectively they're driving themselves into the ground. For me this explains the rise of slow-steaming. It makes a lot of sense in this market because it lowers the cost of shipping a container (less fuel), while simultaneously reducing the market capacity (# of containers / year). Finally, very few shipping companies make money on the major lines (e.g. China to Europe), because it's pure price competition. They're much more likely to make money in places where they have a 'monopoly' on something: e.g. being the only ship that leaves in the next 3 days, or being the only shipper going to a specific location. For example inter-Africa shipping falls in this category.
yellowapple 10y ago
I suspect nuclear (be it fission or - someday - fusion) would be much more viable for powering something at that scale in a "post-petroleum" scenario. There already are a couple fission-powered cargo ships out there, IIRC. The problem is that safe disposal of nuclear fuel is nontrivial.
- nradov 10y ago
  There are bigger problems with nuclear powered cargo ships than just waste disposal. They would need larger crews of highly trained (more expensive) experts to operate the reactor. Look at how much the US Navy spends to train competent technicians and engineers. Every nuclear powered ship becomes a prime terrorist target, either to hijack it or destroy it in place and cause a radiological incident. So you also need constant armed security (also expensive). A more practical way to have "nuclear powered" ships would be to use electric power from land based nuclear plants to manufacture synthetic hydrocarbon liquid fuels, then load that fuel on the ships. Nuclear plants on land are far more cost effective since they can be built much larger to achieve economies of scale on operations and security.
  - freehunter 10y ago
    On the subject of highly trained nuclear operators from the Navy, what's the job market look like for those guys after they leave the service? Where else are you going to find a nuclear-powered ship where you can put your experience to work? Seems like a natural fit. For almost everything in the military, IMO there should be some market in the private space that could use those skills.
    - nradov 10y ago
      Some of them stay 30 years in the service and then retire. Others go to work for civilian nuclear power plants, or the vendors which service and supply them. And there aren't very many trained operators to begin with. The US Navy has <90 nuclear powered vessels (plus a few separate reactors for training and research).
mrfusion 10y ago
Why not have solar modules in a shipping container form factor. (Maybe shorter in height though) and stack those at the top layer when loading the ship. You could probably even find some ingenious way to run the current through the containers stacked umderneath to route the power. They are made of metal.
- nradov 10y ago
  Shipping companies don't own the containers. Solar panels would get broken when they were transferred to shore. Panels and cabling would add more weight to the highest level of the cargo stacks: the worst place for ship stability. And even if you covered the entire top level with solar panels it still wouldn't provide enough propulsion power to be worth the expense.

g00gler 10y ago

Asus and Motorola have made dockable phones. https://www.engadget.com/products/motorola/atrix-4g-lapdock/ https://www.engadget.com/products/motorola/atrix-4g-lapdock/ https://www.engadget.com/products/asus/transformer/book/v/ https://www.engadget.com/products/asus/transformer/book/v/

asafira 10y ago
I believe that is why he/she said they haven't seen someone do this well yet...
- Gustomaximus 10y ago
  Absolutely. I've looked at the solutions so far by Ubuntu, MS and Android (Andromium app). None have floated my boat. I feel its like Palm vs. iPhone. Sure Palm was earlier to market with a reasonable solution, but someone needed to nail it.
  - g00gler 10y ago
    How would this look to you? I was thinking recently that I'd like a liberated Android, found CopperheadOS, but I'm still not sure I'd like to use it on the desktop.

innocentoldguy 10y ago

The problem with using sails is speed. On average, cargo ships travel approximately three to four times faster than sailing ships (20 to 24 knots vs. 5 to 8 knots).

Gustomaximus 10y ago
I came across this article that said they are often slower, the larger cargo ships at least. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2010/jul/25/slow-ships-cut-greenhouse-emissions https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2010/jul/25/slow-shi...

morgante 10y ago

> Something that better vets quality while not pushing for Toptal prices. Why do you think this is possible? That's pretty much exactly what Toptal or other premium shops like Gigster do: vet remote developers to ensure high quality. The idea that you can get great developers from India for rock-bottom rates is mostly a fallacy.

pmontra 10y ago
Don't know about Gigster but the first step of Toptal's vetting process is about solving algorithmic puzzles. That's probably inevitable because they need something that scales. However it's so different from what developers do at work that its relationship to quality is very weak. Actually, it could be negatively related because I would have excelled at those puzzles at university, exactly when I didn't have the expertise to write good software. And the one or two of times per year when I have to solve a puzzle I take my time and solve it. Maybe slower but the rest of my work is so much better that it more than makes up for that. Want a better vetting quality? Look at previous work and read code. It doesn't scale unless you put more people at that but maybe somebody can think about an AI for that.
xiaoma 10y ago
I see Toptal as more of a body shop. 10x is the premium provider.
asenna 10y ago
> The idea that you can get great developers from India for rock-bottom rates is mostly a fallacy. Yes, at rock-bottom rates(< $25/hr), it is. But >$25/hr starts becoming good money for local Indian developers and you can start comparing them to the good developers in the west (>$50/hr). That's just my opinion having worked in the industry for a while and seen both sides of that market.

bluebknight 10y ago

> Dockable Phone to PC Microsoft has done this already but thanks to their poor marketing and crappy Windows phones, no one even knows about it.

Brajeshwar 10y ago

I had the same thoughts for the Contract Economy for quite a while. I'm on a "Startup break", and started a Service Firm. While working with clients, we realized the need to serve a rather underserved section of projects, which are high enough for individual freelancers or even a small team but too low for established agencies - the $100,000 to $1M projects. We're experimenting with some of our clients and their connections, to work with our service/marketplace where we manage the project end-to-end to make sure it is done, with other vetted teams of designers and developers. It is not 'cheap' but much more economical than traditional Agencies. We're Beta Testing it with a small set of clients for now. For those curious, we have a sign-up page at http://www.worksigma.com/ http://www.worksigma.com/

asenna 10y ago
Could you elaborate a bit on this. Looking at the site, I'm not sure how this is different from a traditional Consulting firm.
- Brajeshwar 10y ago
  Our Service/Consulting firm's core focus is UI/UX Designs, and Frontend Engineering. We tend to get quite a bit of incoming work that are not in our core focus. We started working with other partners. We either know these partners or are introduced to us. We interview them, talked to them, worked with them (vetting them). Our clients know that they can go on a vacation while we work on their projects. They wanted that same experience while working with the partners that we introduced. So, we end up handling the client's project and make sure it gets done via these partners. Work Sigma is borne out of this patterns, and process that we followed. We want to grow this, formalize it, and be able to provide a good service to clients and make them happy. One of the marketing taglines that we tossed around our team is, "Agency in the Cloud". btw, A friend told me there is something similar at UpWork - https://www.upwork.com/pro/ https://www.upwork.com/pro/. This is nice - the market is tested and proven.

eb0la 10y ago

Dockable Phone to PC: I agree there is market there. I was on a project about this some time ago and the limiting factor was all the cable mess that cluttered your desk. Women loved the product because it meant _far_less_ weight on their purses. Both men and women wanted something didn't cluttered their work desks (and I understand them ;-)