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> The distribution network is what incentives the creation of child porn. It is true only for the part of the distribution network with backwards money channel

> The distribution network is what incentives the creation of child porn. It is true only for the part of the distribution network with backwards money channel. It is paying for downloading which incentives the creation of child porn, not downloading itself or even uploading. > Also feeding into pedophilic fantasies, which is what child porn does, will further act as an incentive for the creation of child porn. Citation needed

vivekd 10y ago
That's ridiculous you can't demand citations for basic and obvious points. What you need research to tell you that child porn is made by pedophiles and encouraging pedophilic fantasies means more child porn?
- ycmbntrthrwaway 10y ago
  > What you need research to tell you that child porn is made by pedophiles and encouraging pedophilic fantasies means more child porn? I need some evidence that distribution of child porn can turn people child abusers. Until proven otherwise I tend to believe that it is impossible. Some people believe you can turn people gay by propaganda: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_gay_propaganda_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_gay_propaganda_law
  - vivekd 10y ago
    Who do you think consumes child porn? Pedophiles. Maybe you need evidence for that, but in the ordinary course of evaluation most people would agree that child porn is consumed by pedophiles. Gay pron is viewed largely by gay men to fulfil homosexual fantasies. If someone wanted to not engage in homosexual activity, viewing a ton of gay porn is obviously a bad strategy to anyone but the willfully ignorant. Fortunately, homosexual activity is between consenting adults and does not involve torturing children. Pedophilic activity is very different. (Also, the downvoting shows that you're wrong, you can't come up with a reasonable argument so you try and punish dissent)
    - ycmbntrthrwaway 10y ago
      > Who do you think consumes child porn? Pedophiles. Right, so distributing child porn will not make more pedophiles. Those who watch it already are. > If someone wanted to not engage in homosexual activity, viewing a ton of gay porn is obviously a bad strategy to anyone but the willfully ignorant. It is strange to watch gay porn if you don't like it, but how is it a "bad strategy"? Do you believe it has some strategic value, as in it will have long-term consequences? > Fortunately, homosexual activity is between consenting adults and does not involve torturing children. It is not always the case. Male can be raped my male and women can be raped by woman. Further, woman can be raped by man, but it does not justify banning straight porn. > (Also, the downvoting shows that you're wrong, you can't come up with a reasonable argument so you try and punish dissent) I am not sure how voting on HN works, its rules are not public, but AFAIK I can't downvote replies to my posts from the same account, at least for some time. 1 hour passed, I still have only the option to upvote your post and have not voted at all.

vivekd 10y ago

That's ridiculous you can't demand citations for basic and obvious points. What you need research to tell you that child porn is made by pedophiles and encouraging pedophilic fantasies means more child porn?

ycmbntrthrwaway 10y ago
> What you need research to tell you that child porn is made by pedophiles and encouraging pedophilic fantasies means more child porn? I need some evidence that distribution of child porn can turn people child abusers. Until proven otherwise I tend to believe that it is impossible. Some people believe you can turn people gay by propaganda: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_gay_propaganda_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_gay_propaganda_law
- vivekd 10y ago
  Who do you think consumes child porn? Pedophiles. Maybe you need evidence for that, but in the ordinary course of evaluation most people would agree that child porn is consumed by pedophiles. Gay pron is viewed largely by gay men to fulfil homosexual fantasies. If someone wanted to not engage in homosexual activity, viewing a ton of gay porn is obviously a bad strategy to anyone but the willfully ignorant. Fortunately, homosexual activity is between consenting adults and does not involve torturing children. Pedophilic activity is very different. (Also, the downvoting shows that you're wrong, you can't come up with a reasonable argument so you try and punish dissent)
  - ycmbntrthrwaway 10y ago
    > Who do you think consumes child porn? Pedophiles. Right, so distributing child porn will not make more pedophiles. Those who watch it already are. > If someone wanted to not engage in homosexual activity, viewing a ton of gay porn is obviously a bad strategy to anyone but the willfully ignorant. It is strange to watch gay porn if you don't like it, but how is it a "bad strategy"? Do you believe it has some strategic value, as in it will have long-term consequences? > Fortunately, homosexual activity is between consenting adults and does not involve torturing children. It is not always the case. Male can be raped my male and women can be raped by woman. Further, woman can be raped by man, but it does not justify banning straight porn. > (Also, the downvoting shows that you're wrong, you can't come up with a reasonable argument so you try and punish dissent) I am not sure how voting on HN works, its rules are not public, but AFAIK I can't downvote replies to my posts from the same account, at least for some time. 1 hour passed, I still have only the option to upvote your post and have not voted at all.