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Because of the specific way that child porn is, you are basically admitting to breaking the law by reporting it. If you want to go after child abusers then you

Because of the specific way that child porn is, you are basically admitting to breaking the law by reporting it. If you want to go after child abusers then you have to do it anonymously. And of course, in the U.S. you can't even use synthetic images to lure child abusers, because they can count as child porn in some cases. The system discourages everyone from the public to law enforcement from doing anything productive about child sexual abuse.

ycmbntrthrwaway 10y ago
> The system discourages everyone from the public to law enforcement from doing anything productive about child sexual abuse. Using "synthetic images" (lolicon?) to lure "child abusers" (even before you have evidence of them doing crime) and conducting vigilante justice is surely going to be productive if you don't weight in false positives. Do you think the means of current drug war in Philippines is justified by its goals? Want to extend this practice to CP?
- microcolonel 10y ago
  That's quite an extrapolation. Murder is illegal, just because you're investigating something doesn't mean you are entitled to decide or enforce the law. That is what courts are for. By synthetic images, I mean believable CG images of the illegal acts in question. I'm under the impression that paedophilic criminals are careful only to associate with people who are also committing the same crime. If you could gain the trust of traffickers and offender parents(parents are sometimes (often?) involved) through reasonable proof, then I imagine you could stop a lot more child sexual abuse and trafficking.
ZoFreX 10y ago
> The system discourages everyone from the public to law enforcement from doing anything productive about child sexual abuse. It does? Last I heard, law enforcement shut down this stuff regularly, and even have teams dedicated to it.
- microcolonel 10y ago
  Law enforcement agencies often seem to rely on tools developed by private businesses to investigate certain types of crime. Developing useful niche tools for this task is not legally viable (unless, I suspect, if ordered by a court), so I wonder if LEAs are getting the tools they need.
  - DanBC 10y ago
    Could you give some examples? One thing that forensic teams need is to identify locations. Things that help are databases of coca cola (etc) labels, and computer vision recognition of those product labels. (Or carpet patterns). This works by programmers making a general purpose tool, and then law enforcement approach them with censored images to train the software.
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ycmbntrthrwaway 10y ago

> The system discourages everyone from the public to law enforcement from doing anything productive about child sexual abuse. Using "synthetic images" (lolicon?) to lure "child abusers" (even before you have evidence of them doing crime) and conducting vigilante justice is surely going to be productive if you don't weight in false positives. Do you think the means of current drug war in Philippines is justified by its goals? Want to extend this practice to CP?

microcolonel 10y ago
That's quite an extrapolation. Murder is illegal, just because you're investigating something doesn't mean you are entitled to decide or enforce the law. That is what courts are for. By synthetic images, I mean believable CG images of the illegal acts in question. I'm under the impression that paedophilic criminals are careful only to associate with people who are also committing the same crime. If you could gain the trust of traffickers and offender parents(parents are sometimes (often?) involved) through reasonable proof, then I imagine you could stop a lot more child sexual abuse and trafficking.

ZoFreX 10y ago

> The system discourages everyone from the public to law enforcement from doing anything productive about child sexual abuse. It does? Last I heard, law enforcement shut down this stuff regularly, and even have teams dedicated to it.

microcolonel 10y ago
Law enforcement agencies often seem to rely on tools developed by private businesses to investigate certain types of crime. Developing useful niche tools for this task is not legally viable (unless, I suspect, if ordered by a court), so I wonder if LEAs are getting the tools they need.
- DanBC 10y ago
  Could you give some examples? One thing that forensic teams need is to identify locations. Things that help are databases of coca cola (etc) labels, and computer vision recognition of those product labels. (Or carpet patterns). This works by programmers making a general purpose tool, and then law enforcement approach them with censored images to train the software.

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