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Just because he isn't using the new features, doesn't mean they aren't useful. WSL is great - still needs work but on the insider previews it's on 16.04 LTS an

by tw04 10y ago

Just because he isn't using the new features, doesn't mean they aren't useful. WSL is great - still needs work but on the insider previews it's on 16.04 LTS and they're slowly knocking out the nagging little issues with it. If you've got a 2-in-1 like a surface book, the switching from desktop to tablet mode is awesome. If you aren't paranoid (and completely understand why some people are) about the security possibilities, cortana is actually pretty nice too. And as they slowly tie it into xbox and their other platforms it will just become that much more useful. Virtual desktop support is finally there. I mean, outside of that, what were you expecting from Windows? It's the most widely used desktop on the planet... it's not like there were any major feature gaps that were just deal breakers.

mundo 10y ago
I think we're basically agreeing here, it's just a matter of perspective whether "it has a variety of features that are genuinely useful to a certain niche of users" is proof that Win10 is good or that it's bad. I mean, everything you said is true, but I don't have a Surface or an Xbox, so...
khedoros1 10y ago
> cortana is actually pretty nice too. And as they slowly tie it into xbox and their other platforms it will just become that much more useful. Those are some of the things that I find most annoying. I don't want my OS tied into other platforms. I don't want a local search to also be an online search. I don't want a file search to also be a Windows Store search. I don't want a dozen opportunities to link my local user account to be connected to my Windows Live ID. I want the OS to provide a convenient environment to run my software in, and no more. WSL is cool, and I'd like it on my Windows 7 machine. It's a lot nicer to use than Cygwin, and it's enough that I'm not planning on setting up my Win10 netbook to dual boot Linux. The generally lower memory requirement is nice too. Other than that, 10 feels a lot like 7 with more things that I want to disable but can't.
- computerex 10y ago
  Microsoft really needs to up their game in usability. Windows search has always been and continues to be shit.
- mycall 10y ago
  > more things that I want to disable but can't Like what? I'm sure there is a way if you care enough.
  - khedoros1 10y ago
    > Like what? The things I just spent a post complaining about. > I'm sure there is a way if you care enough. I'm sure, too. But why bother? The benefits of the OS aren't worth the work, between researching work-arounds, implementing them, and maintaining them in perpetuity. It sounds like something I might've taken some enjoyment from 10 or 15 years ago. I think my best move now is to stick to 7 and Linux. The netbook can keep 10; I've hidden some of the more annoying "features", and it basically runs a browser, a couple games, and almost nothing else. Doesn't matter if it gets rebooted randomly, starts whirring at arbitrary times because Windows decided to peg the CPU while the machine's "idle", etc.

by tw04 10y ago

mundo 10y ago

I think we're basically agreeing here, it's just a matter of perspective whether "it has a variety of features that are genuinely useful to a certain niche of users" is proof that Win10 is good or that it's bad. I mean, everything you said is true, but I don't have a Surface or an Xbox, so...

khedoros1 10y ago

> cortana is actually pretty nice too. And as they slowly tie it into xbox and their other platforms it will just become that much more useful. Those are some of the things that I find most annoying. I don't want my OS tied into other platforms. I don't want a local search to also be an online search. I don't want a file search to also be a Windows Store search. I don't want a dozen opportunities to link my local user account to be connected to my Windows Live ID. I want the OS to provide a convenient environment to run my software in, and no more. WSL is cool, and I'd like it on my Windows 7 machine. It's a lot nicer to use than Cygwin, and it's enough that I'm not planning on setting up my Win10 netbook to dual boot Linux. The generally lower memory requirement is nice too. Other than that, 10 feels a lot like 7 with more things that I want to disable but can't.

computerex 10y ago
Microsoft really needs to up their game in usability. Windows search has always been and continues to be shit.
mycall 10y ago
> more things that I want to disable but can't Like what? I'm sure there is a way if you care enough.
- khedoros1 10y ago
  > Like what? The things I just spent a post complaining about. > I'm sure there is a way if you care enough. I'm sure, too. But why bother? The benefits of the OS aren't worth the work, between researching work-arounds, implementing them, and maintaining them in perpetuity. It sounds like something I might've taken some enjoyment from 10 or 15 years ago. I think my best move now is to stick to 7 and Linux. The netbook can keep 10; I've hidden some of the more annoying "features", and it basically runs a browser, a couple games, and almost nothing else. Doesn't matter if it gets rebooted randomly, starts whirring at arbitrary times because Windows decided to peg the CPU while the machine's "idle", etc.