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I don't want to be negative here, But I think anyone who can convince Berkeley guys to re-activate this[1] channel would make humanity much much more service.

by 0xFFC 10y ago

I don't want to be negative here, But I think anyone who can convince Berkeley guys to re-activate this[1] channel would make humanity much much more service. I am saying this because this channel changed my life, literally. I do live in third world country, I went to local college, where you will learn nothing after 4 year (not even writing a simple hello world, TBH). But after watching and learning from this channel and MIT opencourseware, right now I am working on internal of linux kernel (just think about not being able to write hello world after 4 year, and compare it with hacking linux kernel to get a feeling about how far I came) as hobby project, and I came this far only by watching various (from OS class to compiler, algorithm, etc) class and solving their assignments and writing their projects. I came this far by my own (only, without any help other than free material in resource I mentioned). I am 100% sure I will go further and further, because this is my thing, I may not be that smart, but I am resilient. So I am perfect/live example of how free educational material can change people lives, and I do live in very small city (indeed very small, which most people are not familiar with computer until 3,4 years ago). I did have 40kb connection, sometimes I spent a whole day waiting for downloading a lecture, to watch it, considering I had to use VPN, you can understand how hard it was to download a whole class from youtube. Right now I have better connection. [1] : https://www.youtube.com/user/UCBerkeley/videos https://www.youtube.com/user/UCBerkeley/videos

wfunction 10y ago
The issue was that people with disabilities across the country (i.e. non-Berkeley-students) were suing* Berkeley for not making their videos accessible. That's why you can't have nice things unfortunately. See here: http://news.berkeley.edu/2016/09/13/a-statement-on-online-course-content-and-accessibility/ http://news.berkeley.edu/2016/09/13/a-statement-on-online-co... Lectures up to 2015 are still there though? Do you consider their materials obsolete or something? *Edit: Specifically, the Attorney General was threatening to file a lawsuit pursuant to the ADA, and damages were ordered to be paid (I don't know if they actually were). Follow the link above to find the Department of Justice letter; the interesting bits are on the last two pages.
- 0xFFC 10y ago
  Yeah, I watched most of them already, But it is always better to have more and updated classes.
- libeclipse 10y ago
  What? So a lawsuit to allow more people access to knowledge resulted in no one having access to more of it. Damn, that's just.. I'm struggling to refrain from saying a word that'd get me in trouble.
  - eru 10y ago
    You'd get symmetric situation if someone sues a biased employer who only hires gingers, and the guy decide to shut shop instead---don't you?
    - deleted 10y ago
      [deleted]
    - cousin_it 10y ago
      It would be symmetric if hiring gingers was cheaper, like making non-accessible videos.
    - Chris2048 10y ago
      Arbitrarily discriminating against gingers isn't the same as not doing extra work to make the videos more accessible. Further more, the right to run a business, and participate in a particular economy, is regulated in many ways - these videos were given away for free to everyone, possibly at cost. I don't think a free educational resource should have to meet this burden.
      - eru 10y ago
        I'm not sure whether it makes a difference, but in my example the biased employer was arbitrarily discriminating in favour of gingers.
atmosx 10y ago
I would like you to make an AMA or a blog post about your story with details. It is pretty inspiring.
- fernandotakai 10y ago
  tons of 3rd world developers are like that. i never went to college so i learned everything i know from watching videos on my 1mb connection and learning documentation. after 10 years and a couple of startups, i wanna say that went particularly well :)
- 0xFFC 10y ago
  I will, let me to finish next phase of my plan before writing any blog post or AMA.(next phase : starting to work for big company or starting a successful startup)
  - emiliobumachar 10y ago
    Take your time, but keep in mind that getting your story out there could help your next phase.
- Yizahi 10y ago
  <slightly offtopic> I remember a story about Google doing some optimization on YouTube page to make it load faster. They done it, tested and then deployed changes to main site. After that they had seen that average page load time increased despite that page definitely loaded faster with fix. In the end they realized that lots of people from 3rd world could now load YouTube not in say 20-30 seconds but in 5-10 seconds (don't remember exact values) and so it changed from unreasonably long to acceptable. And so massive influx of slow clients dropped average time of page load. That was a few years ago, so we can see that there are still maybe millions of people with very slow Internet connection out there.
hackermailman 10y ago
There's also this list of MOOCs https://www.reddit.com/r/learnprogramming/comments/4rimxf/heres_a_list_of_234_free_online_programmingcs/ https://www.reddit.com/r/learnprogramming/comments/4rimxf/he... What I do is find a university and look at their course public page where often in the calendar/schedule you can find lecture notes, slides and sometimes the lectures. If you find the lectures immediately grab them with some browser plugin to archive because they tend to disappear. TU/e in NL has a lot of open english taught courses I've found, like this one with lecture videos http://www.hyperelliptic.org/tanja/teaching/crypto16/ http://www.hyperelliptic.org/tanja/teaching/crypto16/
- 0xFFC 10y ago
  Wow, you are fucking awesome. I dont know how to thank you. I do the same. I downloaded your link and will look at TU more carefully from now on. P.S. It is always this way, every time I find a new lectures, I get way too excited.
  - hackermailman 10y ago
    Carnagie Mellon has some open too http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~213/schedule.html http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~213/schedule.html (Lectures) https://scs.hosted.panopto.com/Panopto/Pages/Sessions/List.aspx#folderID=%22b96d90ae-9871-4fae-91e2-b1627b43e25e%22 https://scs.hosted.panopto.com/Panopto/Pages/Sessions/List.a... That book you can get the global 3rd version from Abe Books for $20something since you aren't in Can/USA There's other courses in there, like this awesome math/compsci course https://scs.hosted.panopto.com/Panopto/Pages/Sessions/List.aspx#folderID=%22bcf8243e-cf18-481f-960f-3c5b26fbb69b%22 https://scs.hosted.panopto.com/Panopto/Pages/Sessions/List.a... (click on the RSS(Subscribe) logo in the upper right, can download them). They also have some fully open courses like this db course with lectures on youtube http://15721.courses.cs.cmu.edu/spring2016/ http://15721.courses.cs.cmu.edu/spring2016/

by 0xFFC 10y ago

wfunction 10y ago

The issue was that people with disabilities across the country (i.e. non-Berkeley-students) were suing* Berkeley for not making their videos accessible. That's why you can't have nice things unfortunately. See here: http://news.berkeley.edu/2016/09/13/a-statement-on-online-course-content-and-accessibility/ http://news.berkeley.edu/2016/09/13/a-statement-on-online-co... Lectures up to 2015 are still there though? Do you consider their materials obsolete or something? *Edit: Specifically, the Attorney General was threatening to file a lawsuit pursuant to the ADA, and damages were ordered to be paid (I don't know if they actually were). Follow the link above to find the Department of Justice letter; the interesting bits are on the last two pages.

0xFFC 10y ago
Yeah, I watched most of them already, But it is always better to have more and updated classes.
libeclipse 10y ago
What? So a lawsuit to allow more people access to knowledge resulted in no one having access to more of it. Damn, that's just.. I'm struggling to refrain from saying a word that'd get me in trouble.
- eru 10y ago
  You'd get symmetric situation if someone sues a biased employer who only hires gingers, and the guy decide to shut shop instead---don't you?
  - deleted 10y ago
    [deleted]
  - cousin_it 10y ago
    It would be symmetric if hiring gingers was cheaper, like making non-accessible videos.
  - Chris2048 10y ago
    Arbitrarily discriminating against gingers isn't the same as not doing extra work to make the videos more accessible. Further more, the right to run a business, and participate in a particular economy, is regulated in many ways - these videos were given away for free to everyone, possibly at cost. I don't think a free educational resource should have to meet this burden.
    - eru 10y ago
      I'm not sure whether it makes a difference, but in my example the biased employer was arbitrarily discriminating in favour of gingers.

atmosx 10y ago

I would like you to make an AMA or a blog post about your story with details. It is pretty inspiring.

fernandotakai 10y ago
tons of 3rd world developers are like that. i never went to college so i learned everything i know from watching videos on my 1mb connection and learning documentation. after 10 years and a couple of startups, i wanna say that went particularly well :)
0xFFC 10y ago
I will, let me to finish next phase of my plan before writing any blog post or AMA.(next phase : starting to work for big company or starting a successful startup)
- emiliobumachar 10y ago
  Take your time, but keep in mind that getting your story out there could help your next phase.
Yizahi 10y ago
<slightly offtopic> I remember a story about Google doing some optimization on YouTube page to make it load faster. They done it, tested and then deployed changes to main site. After that they had seen that average page load time increased despite that page definitely loaded faster with fix. In the end they realized that lots of people from 3rd world could now load YouTube not in say 20-30 seconds but in 5-10 seconds (don't remember exact values) and so it changed from unreasonably long to acceptable. And so massive influx of slow clients dropped average time of page load. That was a few years ago, so we can see that there are still maybe millions of people with very slow Internet connection out there.

hackermailman 10y ago

There's also this list of MOOCs https://www.reddit.com/r/learnprogramming/comments/4rimxf/heres_a_list_of_234_free_online_programmingcs/ https://www.reddit.com/r/learnprogramming/comments/4rimxf/he... What I do is find a university and look at their course public page where often in the calendar/schedule you can find lecture notes, slides and sometimes the lectures. If you find the lectures immediately grab them with some browser plugin to archive because they tend to disappear. TU/e in NL has a lot of open english taught courses I've found, like this one with lecture videos http://www.hyperelliptic.org/tanja/teaching/crypto16/ http://www.hyperelliptic.org/tanja/teaching/crypto16/

0xFFC 10y ago
Wow, you are fucking awesome. I dont know how to thank you. I do the same. I downloaded your link and will look at TU more carefully from now on. P.S. It is always this way, every time I find a new lectures, I get way too excited.
- hackermailman 10y ago
  Carnagie Mellon has some open too http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~213/schedule.html http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~213/schedule.html (Lectures) https://scs.hosted.panopto.com/Panopto/Pages/Sessions/List.aspx#folderID=%22b96d90ae-9871-4fae-91e2-b1627b43e25e%22 https://scs.hosted.panopto.com/Panopto/Pages/Sessions/List.a... That book you can get the global 3rd version from Abe Books for $20something since you aren't in Can/USA There's other courses in there, like this awesome math/compsci course https://scs.hosted.panopto.com/Panopto/Pages/Sessions/List.aspx#folderID=%22bcf8243e-cf18-481f-960f-3c5b26fbb69b%22 https://scs.hosted.panopto.com/Panopto/Pages/Sessions/List.a... (click on the RSS(Subscribe) logo in the upper right, can download them). They also have some fully open courses like this db course with lectures on youtube http://15721.courses.cs.cmu.edu/spring2016/ http://15721.courses.cs.cmu.edu/spring2016/