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Ask HN: We've all been there, what was your big stuff up?

• clusmore 10y ago
  See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13543872 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13543872
• malux85 10y ago
  A "reboot" in the wrong terminal window took the DB primary offline, when I meant to reboot a local VirtualBox instance ... that sinking feeling when you see the vbox instance is still up :/
  • gargravarr 10y ago
    One of the first things I install now is molly-guard...
• sokoloff 10y ago
  I've lost my personal home dir twice in my life: 1993 I tar.gz'd it as I was leaving college and ftp'd that file NOT in binary mode; didn't discover it until too late. 1995, I blew away the mount point for my NFS server with all my home dir and data but had left the server mounted (and was running as root, no root squash, etc) At work, training a new operator, I had them run the script that shutdown all web servers rather than regenerating the CMS caches on them. As the alerts rolled in, I reassured him that we'd done the right thing. Many minutes later, we looked at the logs and saw "webservers-shutdown-all" instead of "webservers-regen-all"
  • steventhedev 10y ago
    I managed to wipe mine by creating a directory called "~" in a REPL and then trying to clean up a few days later by running rm -rf ~. Hit Ctrl-C, but it still managed to chew through most of the dotfiles, and was halfway through a few checkouts of AOSP before I stopped it.
    • sokoloff 10y ago
      Same "Hmm, that's taking longer than it should..." sinking feeling.
• davidgerard 10y ago
  My stories to put interviewees at ease: * (2010) When you're asked to restore last Sunday's backup to the dev CMS, make sure you're actually on the dev instance, and not, say, on the live instance. That literally every editorial person in the company uses. The day before deadline. (I got to restore 36 two-hourly incremental backups in sequence by hand. We lost only a couple of hours' work. But we verified our backups work!!) * (2005) Never trust a UPS manual. Ever. Particularly, when it says that the "bypass" switch works smoothly, rather than, e.g., glitching the power and taking down all 75+ Windows PCs in the computer room. (The Sun boxes were of course unaffected.) Recovering the Windows network took most of the morning; the NT admins were less than impressed. And I was a contractor too. Fortunately working under the direction of the in-house admin. The important thing being, of course, to recover and learn from the experience :-)
  • shermanyo 10y ago
    thanks for sharing :) its great when an 'unscheduled verification of backups' goes well ;)
    • davidgerard 10y ago
      You have just gifted me a wonderful new phrase. "Verification of the backups ... er, unscheduled verification of the backups."
• herghost 10y ago
  Working on a software deployment across the whole company but without a reliable means of distributing software. Using a combination of AD login scripts where available, but mostly relying on the antivirus product which was installed to locally run scripts on each endpoint. Cut to 1:30am after a full day of eking out 1 or 2 endpoints here or there, and I've figured out a new method to try. But first I need to test it and make sure it's not going to break anything else, so I create a separate asset group in the AV software and add only my machine to it. I add a simple "hello, world!" type script just to show that the script is executing and wait. And wait. No "hello, world!". It's 2am, I'm back in the office at 7am, my new insights will hold until tomorrow. I'm going to bed. About 6:45 I'm in the queue at the shop to get coffee and bacon and my boss walks in for the same. We small talk and then he gets an incident call. There's a virus affecting all of <locality's> machines. Uh-oh. He's getting ready to abandon his coffee and bacon aspirations (he's the Head of Security), when I ask what's actually happened. "As everyone's logging in in <locality> this morning they're getting a command prompt pop up that just says 'hello, world!'" Oh. Fuck. I abandoned my coffee and bacon aspirations and assured him that this wasn't a virus, it was a misconfiguration that I'd made only hours before. It was sorted within minutes and was broadly taken with good humour. But I was referred to as "World" for a while afterwards when people greeted me.
  • oAlbe 10y ago
    > I was referred to as "World" for a while afterwards when people greeted me. That feels meaner than it sounds...
  • passiveincomelg 10y ago
    from the canonical list of Reasons Against Overtime I surely contributed to that list, but was too tired to remember any details. :)
• Boldewyn 10y ago
  Looking for a specific line in the production server's /etc/password with this command: sed -i -n '/foobar/p' /etc/passwd trimmed the file to a single line's length. D'oh! Shouldn't have added that `-i`, should not have done that. Luckily I could restore it from a (working) backup while still logged in. Phew!
• davman 10y ago
  I fdisk'd the LVM partition that was used as iSCSI storage for 200+ virtual machines.
  • shermanyo 10y ago
    ouch!
• chewyfruitloop 10y ago
  not sure ... was it the time I deleted the table space containing the unbanked transactions for a local council which was about £1 million (I did a very hasty recovery) or when i accidentally deleted the table space of the last 3 years data for another council ... which took 3 weeks to recover ... or when I setup an ISDN modem to dial the wrong number every 30 seconds for 6 months costing £10k after discount (the bill snapped the table legs when it was dropped) .....
  • shermanyo 10y ago
    any of those will do nicely haha. thanks for sharing :)
• shakna 10y ago
  We were doing a cleanup of VMs. The network had been rebuilt four times by three different people, and only half documented each time. One time, each VM had been named after planetary bodies. Sol was the AD, Jupiter the print server, etc. We found one called Mars. Completely undocumented. Doesn't exist so far as the docs knew. The previous admin didn't remember it. I ran Wireshark, and got nothing. So... I didn't just shut it down, but I deleted it. Took 10 minutes for mass panic to hit the office. Mars was the gateway for our publicly exposed servers. No website, no email, no VPN. Our daily backup only copied data, not actual images. So, just hoping, I threw a reverse pass through proxy up on the same IP, with routes for our servers. Quiet returned, as I went about recovering the Mars image I had deleted. Lesson learned: if you are working in unknown territory, let it break before deleting. Also, add VM images to the backup routine.
  • dawnerd 10y ago
    Also name things so they're a little more obvious.
    • shakna 10y ago
      New name for Mars: extern-gateway01-<domain> And a page in the documentation.
    • shermanyo 10y ago
      We had a pair of VMs that switched hostnames in DNS at one point. (ie. the hostname 'test-1' resolved to the VM with the image named 'test-2') someone would inevitably restart the wrong one from the VM host, thinking it was the one they'd been SSHing to :/
      • shakna 10y ago
        Twitching, that would make me rather upset, and maybe some host-file changes. Though we did, in the same mess of network, have dc01-<domain> and dc02-<domain>. dc01 was the Domain Controller. dc02 was... The backup of ad01-<domain>...
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• gargravarr 10y ago
  On my internship while at uni back in 2010, I was tinkering with the company SVN server. It was the only machine running Linux in the whole company, and I'd only learned Linux the year before. If I recall correctly, I was trying to set up Trac. Back then, it wasn't in the repos so I was having to set it up from a tarball. So, what do you know, I broke something in the source folder and the whole Trac install was unusable. I decided to nuke it and start again. I'm sure you all know where this is going by now. Back then, I had a habit of tryping ./* for anything in the current directory, rather than just * . I forgot the . Me being a total n00b and naive, I thought the permissions warnings I got were genuine (I didn't initially run the command as root) and that because I was chown'ing stuff to www-data... yep. sudo !! And of course, even though --no-preserve-root was a thing even back then, that only works if the argument given to rm is '/'. Otherwise, bash resolves the wildcard and passes each one in. It took about 5 seconds to kill my SSH session, just long enough for me to notice the missing . and go OHSHI- Worse, the machine wasn't backed up. It had a reasonably concise wiki on the company in-house software. On the flipside, that meant the boss shared the blame with me because there was no backup. We were able to rescue the SVN repos, but the MySQL data tables were gone. So I can totally relate to the poor Gitlab sysadmin who's probably suffering PTSD right now. For want of a single . I managed to trash a production machine too. As one of my friends would later tell me, 'root is a state of mind'.
• phaemon 10y ago
  A hastily and poorly written bash script. These days I start every bash script with what I now think of as the "Brexit Options": set -eu; set -o pipefail The key missing one in this case was `-u`. That stops the script if you have an unset variable. This script would do some stuff, and put a new website in place, and then remove the old one. So, my bash script had the line: rm -rf /var/www/$olddir You can see it already. I ran it with $olddir unset. I think I had it in my head that the directory would simply not be found so that was fine. For those of you unfamiliar with bash, since olddir="", what actually ran was: rm -rf /var/www/ Gigabytes lost (back then, a GB was a lot!). We had backups but they took hours to restore. Horrible, horrible day.
  • taspeotis 10y ago
    https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/3671 https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/3671
  • beaconstudios 10y ago
    Thanks for providing the line you use to avoid these errors - I'll definitely be including this in future bash scripts! It makes you think - if we had these threads more often, perhaps we'd all get to learn more about these little process changes that could avert a disaster.
    • shermanyo 10y ago
      I love these sort of threads for exactly this reason. I always seem to walk away with a better understanding of some tool I've used for years.
  • nl 10y ago
    I did this same thing, except mine was in effect: sudo rm -rf /home/username/something/$SOME_VAR/* by some circumstances, SOME_VAR ended up being set to a space. Turns our that rm takes a list of directories to delete, so that deleted everything from the entire server. Fortunately I had backups. But yeah.. don't do this.
• sokoloff 10y ago
  We were moving buildings in 2006. The datacenter was not getting re-IP'd and did not have cross-connectivity, some infrastructure was moving ahead of the final move, including the backup targets. So, I'd turned off the svn backups (dumps and post-commit incrementals) when the targets moved about a week before the final people move. We got into the new building and in the rush of getting everything setup, I'd forgotten to re-enable backups (had not made a checklist). Sure enough, svn server crashes, BDB corrupted, last backups about 8 days old. Fortunately, we had nightly build snapshots, code on dev workstations, etc, so it was mostly a rock-fetch project to put things back together starting from a fresh repo. We had other automation that used the repo path and revision, so I created a "devtemp" repo and restored the backup re-imported all the code there and then laid on incrementals from nightly builds and dev workstations. In the process, I checked in the vast majority of our code as the author of "revision 6". 10 years later, I was still getting svn blame based questions "about this code you wrote (in -r 6)" "Man, that sokoloff dude wrote a whole lot of crappy code..." Now that we've been mostly on git for 2 years and only have those repos for historical archeology, the questions are finally dying off.
  • shermanyo 10y ago
    > 10 years later, I was still getting svn blame based questions "about this code you wrote (in -r 6)" That's fantastic haha
• oompahloompah 10y ago
  I was working support at a VPS provider for my first real-world tech job fresh out of college and a customer was having issues with their system not booting correctly. They were smart enough to use our integrated backups service so I told them that they could delete their current disks and restore from backup. So they did... Or at least they tried to. The backups system was incredibly wobbly at the time and would corrupt its archives pretty frequently which is exactly what happened. They lost everything on that server. Did I mention that was their sole server and they had no other backups? It turned out that they were a company providing services to a government entity and had some pretty strict record-keeping requirements which they relied on our service to fulfill. I was freaking out thinking I was going to be fired after being there for less than a year but everything was resolved fairly well (somehow). I learned to never trust backups and the rule of thumb "two is one, one is none" as it applies to them.
• nicostouch 10y ago
  I was browsing through some web services code I had written a few months prior and was now doing a bug fix for it when I noticed an if statement with a boolean condition that would be easier to read if it were the other way around. I modified the condition to improve readability but in doing so actually flipped the condition. Luckily QA caught it otherwise it would have broken customer sign up through the web portal for a number of clients. Not a great mistake to make but it taught me a great lesson - never ever ever refactor something without the proper tests in place first, it's not worth the risk.
• JensRantil 10y ago
  It was daytime. One of our MySQL tables were growing at a rate higher that usual. Easiest way to check the size of the table? Duh, you `cd` into /var/lib/mysql on the database primary to `du -sh` the InnoDB table file...`SHOW TABLE STATUS` requires some arithmetic for true file size. To this day I have no idea why I typed `rm -fr /var/lib/mysql` instead of `cd`. I blame muscle memory. Good news is MySQL pools its open files. This means the database was operational (but slowly failing opening less used tables) for 15 minutes or so. We quickly promoted a database slave to primary and took the old one down for backup restore. I went for a teary walk. Shaken. At the postmortem we concluded we needed more metrics from MySQL to avoid SSHing into servers. We also concluded how error prone one-off commands are. Personally, I'm much more careful nowadays.
• Intermernet 10y ago
  Many years ago I was asked to image a new Samba server as the old one was throwing random errors due to age. I waited until everyone else had left the building, grabbed the disk out of the old server, stuck it into the shiny new server and proceeded to dd the old disk to the new disk. Except I got the devices around the wrong way (/dev/sda , /dev/sdb) and proceeded to copy the contents of a blank hard drive over the top of the old server's drive. Didn't notice until the process had finished... I then discovered the benefit of DR plans the hard way (backups are useless unless you test a restore). Long story short, I managed to recover most of the files using a variety of disk recovery tools, but I was still in the office the next morning when other people started arriving and began to ask me why, for example, the payroll application couldn't find it's database. I spent the next few days in panicked forensics mode until the company was operating to everyone's satisfaction. When I left that company years later I had implemented many redundant layers of backups, proper DR plans that I religiously followed, and developed a meticulous habit of testing any commands that needed to be run on any production server.
  • shakna 10y ago
    > dd ... got the devices around the wrong way dd always makes me nervous as hell when I need to use it. I usually end up checking four or more times. Still got it wrong a few times. Nothing like having to recover data with forensics to make you build a fantastic backup system with great redundancy.
• tangus 10y ago
  A long time ago, working for a BBS, I wrote a nice interactive utility to review and change user configurations. I named it uc ("user configure"). After some testing, I installed it in /usr/local/bin. Time to use it! # uc /bbs/users/* Nothing happens. It needs some time to read all users' configuration files before displaying the user interface, but it's taking too long. What's happening? I decide to interrupt it. Shortly after, we find out all user accounts starting with A, B, and C are wiped out. Apparently, unbeknown to me, somebody had previously written a utility to delete user accounts. It was named uc (user clear), and was installed in /usr/bin. Fortunately we had fairly recent backups. That day I learned about hash -r.
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• GrumpyNl 10y ago
  Working with VRS and harddisks of 20Mb ( that was top of the bill in those days) With the disk came a program called cd.exe and we thought it was for checkDisk, it wasnt. It was cleanDisk or Cleardisk. A quick format was done. Spent 24 hours manually restoring all the files on the disk.
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• petecooper 10y ago
  I worked at Tesco, a UK grocery chain, in my teens. I was involved with stock control, among other things, and was partially responsible for populating shelves at a new store. All products at Tesco have an 8-digit product number (SKU) in addition to the EAN/UPC. There's also a three digit case size number. Like this: 05123456-024 Each product has an estikmated weekly sale and a capacity (shelf plus warehouse) to aid efficient warehousing. Each product has a case size of less than 1,000. Well, all but one -- white sugar. That has a case size of 1,024. It's annotated on the shelf ticket as '024', dropping the leading '1'. I didn't know about this until ~43 tonnes of sugar arrived on 6 trucks the following day. For a new store. In a small town. It turns out that me misreading '024' as a case size and over-ordering sugar by a factor of 43x was enough to have the internal ordering software updated.
  • jacobush 10y ago
    See, that is what's wrong with you quiche eating europeans. Fixing the error... What a twist ending! (Twisted even!) A heartfelt "you're fired!" and a lawsuit, now that's the American way.
    • chewyfruitloop 10y ago
      ...isn't that the standard order size for a week in the states :p
      • jacobush 10y ago
        Nah, they prefer their sugar hidden in other products. Besides, there's just no bang for the buck in table sugar. High fructose corn syrup is the sweet spot.
  • masklinn 10y ago
    I've got to say a bunch of trucks loaded with pallets of sugar arriving at a small-town Tesco is a hilarious image. Were you at the new store when the trucks arrived or did you get told afterwards? Were there negative consequences for you personally or was it considered a process/tooling error only?
• boyter 10y ago
  Made a mistake with a cloudformation script which promptly removed the svn servers drives. The worst part was watching it fail the first time then retrying and suddenly the drive is gone. Thankfully I had been involved in a migration of the svn server between regions a few months back and in paranoia had tested the hell out of the backup and restore process, and that most repositories had been migrated to git. Still it did stop my heart for about 20 seconds when I realised my mistake.
• contingencies 10y ago
  Nice idea for a thread. It's never one person's fault. At the very first job I ever had, with literally hours on the job, my employer somehow put me (at 17, with zero routing experience) in charge of a major change to the primary yet supposedly redundant ISDN routes at a small ISP. Needless to say there were some unhappy customers the next day or two as incorrectly advertised routes drew traffic down the wrong pipe, we figured that out, updated correctly and propagated. Luckily most customers were schools, internet was not yet a critically expected utility, and we buggered things up on a Saturday, so the majority of the customer flak was only on Monday morning. I can't remember what the routing protocol was in those days, but it was probably something early like RIPv1. Meh. Certainly a learning experience I felt bad about, but in hindsight totally not my fault!
  • shermanyo 10y ago
    I've heard some horror stories from mates working in data centers, where a simple route or firewall change knocks out a huge number of customers :/
• tluyben2 10y ago
  In 1999 I ran one of those rm -fR thingies with an unset var on a client production system. Systems were dog slow those days but I only noticed when the client called that his ERP was down. This was one my country's most successful car rental companies and all went through there. Ofcourse (...) the backups were broken and we did not use CVS yet. The client, a very nice man, said 'well that is unfortunate' and that was all. We restored a very old backup and copied the source files from my dev system to it. After that we ran a mirror in our office (nightly db copies via ssh), used CVS and weekly backup tests. Jikes. Another one which was less my fault but I did blame myself for was dropping a server with 200.000 web sites on it because we had to move datacenters and it was xmas eve and very very slippery with ice. We slid and the server fell which wrecked the (hardware) RAID disks. This had working tape backups so there was a few hours downtime which was going to happen anyway as we were moving. Now that I am writing this anyway; the most traumatic was mid of the 80s with my second computer when I was 10. I had one disk(!); they were expensive and I did not get a lot pocket money. I was learning assembly after Basic became too slow for what I wanted. I was building a game (Chuckie Egg rip off) and after a long time not saving I ran the game and it worked. I was happy and saved the game on the one disk with all the software I wrote with the save command. When I pressed enter I remembered, and I remember this very vividly, that I used the the disk basic ram space because I was running out of memory. The disk started spinning, computer rebooted and ... files (dir) command after gave a disk I/O error... The misery. Edit: ugh. Just remembered a 1984 one; my father brought home a modem for the MSX-1 and those things were, for my notion of money, kind of bare gold, price wise. It was 100s of guilders. But it could only do Viditel. Which sucked. I wanted BBS access and that required shoving the thing into the MSX after Basic was already booted. The MSX cartridge ports are connected intimately to vital computer parts. So shoving it in crooked had my best friend looking at a purple screen after that I decided better would be to solder in a switch. I did that before with stuff I found by the road. I had to cut an IC pin to do it which I had done quite often; this time I cut it and it flew off... Eventually I was forgiven.
• gvurrdon 10y ago
  A few years ago I worked on a research project at a university where we generated quite a bit of data, and we would occasionally (every few months) run an archiving script which would copy data from one MySQL table to another and then truncate the source table. I once ran this without remembering that the columns in the source table had been changed a few weeks previously and the destination table and script had not been updated accordingly. Result: The insert into the new table failed but the old one was truncated anyway. This shouldn't have been too much of a problem because a full dump of the MySQL database was made every night, copied offsite with scp, and kept for a week. But, when the time came to restore the affected table from one of these dumps I found that every dump for the last week had timed out silently and was incomplete. The result was the best part of a week trying to reconstruct the missing parts of the table from what could be found in the dumps and to restore it successfully. I got most of it back, but we couldn't do much work for that period.
• flurdy 10y ago
  Been there, done that. I managed to loose 30 days of billing data without a working backup. At a 7 man music streaming startup 10+ years ago, there was an issue with our production server. The application was working, but the reporting tool on another server was no longer getting the daily copy of the Firebird database from the live server. The database server had run out of disk space so was no longer able to make backups to transfer. So I stopped the apps, stopped the database, cleared out a lot of old logs and backups that was no longer needed, and brought everything back up again. And then I swore, as I am sure YP did at Gitlab when he realised what had just happened. The database had started up using as you would expect its last persisted state. In this case, its state 30 days as it was then it ran out of disk space. :( Firebird had been happy running in memory since then though not able to persist any changes. And since the backup procedure was to export the database to a local disk file then scp it to other nodes, it had been happily transferring 0 bytes files for weeks. :/ Had I cleared up some disk space then exported the database before I shut it down then there would have been no problem. As I realised the severity of this I quickly got hold of our CEO to say I totally fucked up. We then worked together to piece together the missing data from access logs, 3rd party purchase records, and other reports and sources that he had available. We managed to rebuild most of the missing data though there were some gaps in the last 7 days. Not recovering 30 days at all may have killed our tiny company. We learnt from the mistake and I worked there happily for another year before the company got bought up. Naturally the next project I did was to write a decent alerting system (I won't go into the 300 duplicate text messages I received from it during one night whilst on holiday in southern France). I have made many mistakes since, just never the same mistake. And with the years I take better and better precautions, scale horizontally, test backup restores etc. But mistakes still happen, just don't panic, and don't try to be the midnight oil hero :)
  • shermanyo 10y ago
    > I have made many mistakes since, just never the same mistake. And with the years I take better and better precautions, scale horizontally, test backup restores etc. But mistakes still happen, just don't panic, and don't try to be the midnight oil hero :) Perfectly put. Thanks for sharing.
• bryanrasmussen 10y ago
  I had a small Sinatra server I had written to get data from Oracle and place into a resque queue for some machine learning categorization to run. It was small, but there was code that could be made more dry by moving out into a function, so I did that and call that function whenever I needed to get new data. Unfortunately I forgot to close the connections that I was opening with my refactored function. Checked it was working, time for the weekend. At the same company one time our tech lead got some code from the main Java dev in Argentina that was supposed to be an improved way of handling customer alerts, he copy pasted it and put it into the alerts class without even thinking about the code. 2 months later there was a major issue being raised about why was it nobody was getting any alerts! Tech lead worked from home on this important issue. There were meetings. Anyway I was the one who found the issue because I thought let's check the repository, hey tech lead touched some Java about 2 months ago which he shouldn't be doing! Let's look at the code. The code was just obvious that it would never do what it was supposed to do, even to me who doesn't do Java. This is not to say the tech lead was a bad developer, far from it. He probably just lacked some of the deep paranoia that would prevent me from ever copy pasting in some code from a trusted colleague without reading it over a couple times.
• tzs 10y ago
  1. We had servers hosted at hosting company X. X decided to leave the hosting business, so we had to move. We leased servers at hosting company Y, and set up mirrors of our X databases at Y, with them replicating from X. Then we started moving non-database things to Y. Each thing we would move would first still point to the databases on X, then would be updated so that it is reading from the mirror at Y but still writing to X. Once everything was working that way, we changed the configuration so we could write to the databases on either X or Y, with two way replication between the two, and then started changing things at Y to write to the Y databases. When that was done we had everything running on Y, but with the two way replication between X and Y still going so that if we found a serious problem we could revert the problem application back to X. We than ran this way for a while until we were happy with the results. The powers that be then authorized shutting down everything at X. Since we had sensitive data at X (such as onfile credit cards), we needed to make sure we deleted everything before relinquishing the servers. Deleting the data was my task. I got the go ahead to start, and fired up my scripts. A little while later a high level manager comes running to my office yelling "stop the wipe!". It turned out that the IT folks had not turned off the two way replication before turning the servers over to me for wiping. My scripts included deleting all the data from within the database, so that got replicated over to the live servers and wiped out everything in our customer database. Oops! We were able to reconstruct it from the latest daily backup plus the replication logs, but it did lead to a few hours outage in the middle of the day. (This wasn't actually my stuff up, as it was IT that omitted the "stop replication" step, but I had seen their migration checklist and should have caught that they did not have such a step). 2. In my college days, working part time as a sysadmin at Caltech High Energy Physics, I wrote a batch processing system for the physicists. (I don't recall why they wanted some new system instead of just using cron or at, but they did). There were two programs in my system, "batman" (BATch MANager) for the physicists to use to manage their jobs, and a dameon "robin" (Run Overnight Batch INput) to actually do the work. There was a configuration file, /etc/batman. While working on batman and robin, I had many occasions to replace the configuration file, or to delete it. In other words, I had many occasions to type, as root, "cp new-config /etc/batman" or "rm /etc/batman". Out of habit I had a tendency to automatically type "passwd" whenever I typed "/etc/". So one day I ended up typing "rm /etc/passwd" instead of "rm /etc/batman". Oops. I contacted the other system administrator, the one who handled backups, and he came in and restored /etc/passwd. Then I did it again! He restored it again, and this time also made a hard link /etc/safe-from-tzs to /etc/passwd, so that if I did it again we could just relink instead of restoring from backups. This was quite embarrassing. That worked fine, until instead of it being an rm command that I did the batman/passwd switch on it it was a cp command. That led to another safe-from-tzs that was a copy, not a link. Even more embarrassing. (I know that there are a couple more incidents I left out, but I don't remember the timing. One of them I was able to recover without bothering the other sysadmin, because it was an early Sunday morning and I was sure no one else was on and no batch processes were running, and I was able to cut power to the VAX before the periodic cache flush committed my error to disk). 3. This one wasn't mine, but I had to figure out what happened and fix it. The place I worked sold a subscription product. One day the re-billing somehow ended up getting big runs of off by ones on the credit cards. What I mean by that is instead of charging account A1's credit card, C1, and charging account A2's credit card, C2, and so on, we ended up putting A1's charge on C2, A2's charge on C3, and so on. Fortunately we only had a small number of subscription plans, and one was by far the most popular. That resulted in most of these shifted charges still putting the right amount on most cards, so only a few transactions had to be voided and redone due to the wrong amount. We got very lucky there. I was given the task of figuring out what had gone wrong, since the billing process and databases all ran on Unix systems and I had by far the most Unix experience (I'd been a Unix kernel hacker at Interactive System Corporation and at Callan Data Systems in prior lives). I fairly quickly found the problem. The billing process was forking off children so that it could process several accounts in parallel. That was fine, except that it was opening its database connections in the parent process before the fork. Different children ended up sharing a single database connection, and so one child could end up reading results there were from another child's query. I restructured it a bit so that it didn't need to use the database until after the fork, and moved the database opening into the children and all was well.
• subutux 10y ago
  I worked at a small local computer shop in Belgium. We ran a local NFS/SMB server storing all sorts of different ISO's & applications for archiving. All this was ran on a md-raid 10. At one point I got a notification that one of the 4 disks is failing. Trying to determine the disk that was failing using dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/null for each disk & looking at the "activity" light on the chassis of disks. Spotted an active led of a disk & executed the mdadm command for removing that disk. replaced the disk with a brand new one & started syncing mdadm. Turns out I should had disabled networking, because someone was accessing the datastore & I removed the wrong drive. Lost all of it & 14 hours of my life, trying to recover it with testdisk.
• ddmf 10y ago
  When I was young my dad had an early compaq laptop - green cathode ray screen, looked like the case for a sewing machine. Tried to use some commands, but didn't know dos - format c: of course doesn't show the directory in a specific format...
• tobltobs 10y ago
  I once run a dropped domain catcher. Some evening I was fixing a problem, when the "Dinner is ready" call came from downstairs. Wanting to save some time I started a test run and went to dinner. Coming back from dinner I realized that I did introduced two small errors. The if else deciding if the script is in dev mode was wrong and the calculation if a dropped domain was worth buying was buggy and resulted in a "yes, buy" everytime. I didn't had a credit card registered and only had a few hundred dollars in my prepaid account at the registry, which saved my ass.
• sofaofthedamned 10y ago
  I previously put this up at /r/sysadmin but here goes again: I was a programmer in my first IT job in 1992 for a large retailer in the UK. I was working on some stock related code for the branches, of which they had thousands. They sold a lot of local goods like books which were only sold in a couple of stores each - think autobiographies of local politicians, local charity calendars, that sort of thing. Problem with a lot of these items was that they were not on the central database. This caused a problem with books especially as you don't pay VAT on books, but if you can't identify the book then the company had to pay it. This makes sense because some books or magazines you DID pay VAT on, because they came with other stuff - think computer magazines with a CD on the front. So my code looked at different databases and historical info to work out the actual VAT portion payable, which was usually nil. I wrote the code (COBOL, kill me now), the testers tested it, all went OK until when they deployed, on a Friday night. The first I knew was coming in Monday morning. All the ops had been working throughout the weekend as the entire stock status for each branch had been wiped. They had to pull a previous weeks backup from storage, this didn't work as they didn't have the space for both copies to merge so IBM had to motorcycle courier some hardware from Amsterdam, etc etc. As this was a IBM mainframe with batch jobs we also had to stop subsequent jobs in case it made the fuckup worse, so none of the stock/finance stuff could run at all. The branches were royally fucked on Monday as, without any stock status to know what to order, they got nothing - no newspapers, books, anything. We even made it to the Daily Mail, I think it took at least 3 weeks before ordering was automatic again. Cost the company literally millions in overtime, not being able to sell stuff, consultants and reputational damage - it was big news in the national newspapers. The root cause? I processed data on a run per-branch. I'd copy the branch data to a separate area, delete the main data, then stream it back. My SQL however deleted the main data for ALL branches. It didn't get picked up in QA as, like me, they only tested with a single branch dataset at a time. I literally spent the week in a daze drinking hard, thinking my career was over. My boss saved my career and me by being absolutely stellar about it. Wherever you are Mike Addis, I thank you!
• wantoncl 10y ago
  Kinda long setup but background is needed... We're a Microsoft shop, .Net application with SQL Server RDBMS on Azure Virtual Machines. We use Availability Groups (AG) for failover/redundancy and read-only copies. AG uses Windows clustering, and the recommended MS configuration for clustered Azure VMs is a storage pool of the attached VHDs, with OS virtual disks on top of that. It looks and acts the same as physical hardware. One thing I didn't fully appreciate is that the Windows cluster still aggregates all the storage across nodes even if they aren't cluster resources. Remember this. About 8-9 months ago we wanted to migrate our databases to a new VM config without incurring any downtime. Standard method with AG is to add a new node to the cluster, include it in the AG config, and manually synchronize the databases to that node. Once done we fail over to the new nodes and evict the old ones. We did several tests and all went well, so we scheduled the production migration for 9:00 pm that night. We added the new nodes to prod during the day and made a small change in drive letters (originally R:, S: and T:, new nodes were SSD based so consolidated it all on Z:) Turns out that while AG will replicate with database files on different drive letters, it won't fail over unless the drive layout is identical. While this was technically a mistake it saved my ass. We had all the drive letters on the new nodes and decided to prep early for the migration. I open our PowerShell script to manage the storage pool and virtual disks. I run Get-VirtualDisk and see all the volumes listed, but each name shows 3 times (we had 3 nodes). I've noticed this before but didn't really grasp the implication, because all the volumes had the same names on each node. I decided to remove the old drive letters from the new node and run Remove-VirtualDisk for each of them (local backup drive first, then transaction log drive, then data file drive). Literally 5 seconds later: "Hey ___, the application isn't responding. Is there something going on with the database?" Turns out, there was. Since the volumes were all the same name, and it was a Windows cluster, drives on all nodes were dropped. Fuck. As this was a storage pool with striped disks, rebuilding it was going to be tricky at best, and if it could be done at all, would need manual work and a lot of time. And no one had any experience doing that. And this was during peak business hours. Fuck fuck fuck fuck... You notice the sequence I dropped drives? All local backups were gone. Our cluster disk redundancy consisted of copying to every node in the cluster. Our Azure cloud backups were 12-24 hours old, and would take minimum 4-6 hours to restore. Fuck ^ Graham's number. (yes, all fucks were spoken out loud during this episode) Since MS recommends not keeping the system databases on the C: drive, we had moved them to one of the drives that no longer existed, so SQL Server wouldn't even start on the primary node. I'm actually sweating at this point and thinking I'm going to get fired. In any case we get the word out to our support folks and they notify customers. Fortunately that new Z: drive with all the database files on it was still intact. After the the fastest round of Googling ever, I ended up having to evict the dead nodes from the cluster, and forced a failover (the option for this is helpfully and deliberately named FORCE_FAILOVER_ALLOW_DATA_LOSS). First time I ever had to do this BTW. (have done many planned failovers though) Everything came back up, and from what we could tell no actual data was lost, any in-flight transactions were rolled back when the disks went away. In effect we performed our migration in the middle of the day instead of that night, and were down for 23 minutes. (We had planned on 1-2 hours)* Lessons learned and/or reinforced: 0. You CAN recover from catastrophic data loss. Don't panic. Or, panic in a controlled and practiced fashion. 1. Understand your product's features and implement them properly. Fortunately SQL Server's features are designed to preserve data as best it can, even if you fuck up. 2. You cannot have too much redundancy. We now copy our backup files to independent local storage, and have a disaster recovery site in another data center, log shipped on 15 minute intervals. (Sadly we have yet to test failing over to it) 2a. All our production database changes now require additional backups immediately prior. (You should also verify that they can be restored) 3. On a Windows cluster, ensure every disk volume has a unique name that includes the node in it. 4. Practice disaster recovery. And that means true disaster, unexpected issues. Look at these and other threads for examples, and ACTUALLY DO THEM. 5. Practice all production changes multiple times in a separate environment. WRITE DOWN the procedures and DO NOT DEVIATE FROM THEM when actually changing production. Thanks for reading this long thing. * Our customers were actually happy after the migration because the SSD performance was much faster than the original disk setup.
• TranceMan 10y ago
  Using a bash script I wrote and running as root calling rsync to backup to /mnt/backup/blah which was supposed to be an nfs mount. At some point [turned out to be 5 months prior to attempting the restore] the nfs became un-mounted and I was backing up to a dir in the same drive in /mnt Yes the hard drive had died.
• _ah 10y ago
  Remember when e-cards were the hot new internet thing? I was an intern working on such a system and, while debugging an issue ran the dreaded "DELETE FROM Cards" without that all-so-important WHERE. Lost the whole table, 10,000s of cards. Of course I was operating directly on production data (dev server? what dev server?). Of course there were no backups. Since this was a website catering mainly toward children, I threw up a quick error page on the website explaining away the problem and inviting users to create a new card. Nobody ever complained...
• partisan 10y ago
  A few weeks into a new job, I was tasked with fixing a bug in an ASP.NET application. I stepped through the application and was able to reproduce the issue, which unfortunately for me only happened when a payment was submitted. So I went through the code, once, twice, thrice, testing various scenarios to understand why the issue would happen. At some point, I started reading the code at a line level and realized that embedded right in the middle of that payment logic was a line of code that sent an email to the customer indicating that a payment had been made. Then I realized I had sent 10s of emails out during each debugging pass. I immediately ran over to my new boss and explained what happened. He smiled when I told him how many emails were sent and then asked me to get customer service in contact with the customer. He was obviously unhappy, but he said he was glad that I had realized it and that I had raised the issue to him immediately. Lesson: Read the code before jumping headlong into a debugging session. If you make a mistake, inform someone immediately. They would probably rather hear it from you than discover it on their own. I stuck to this principal at that job and it served me really well.
  • clooless 10y ago
    Happened to me. Now, my Debug web.config file has a setting that directs all outgoing email to a local "SpecifiedPickupDirectory".
• Meltdown 10y ago
  Ran alter table sql that changed the column type from money to int causing the db to round the values in the column, dropping the cent values from all line-items -- had to restore values from backup.
  • gargravarr 10y ago
    I remember hearing a story on my internship that a previous admin (departed before I joined) did something similar, but intentionally. The company printed labels using fully computerised process machines. Labels for things like medicine bottles etc. So obviously they need a lot of precision. Now, the company had been an independent UK firm for many years, but had recently been acquired by a US company doing similar things. The admin (of all trades, sysadmin, DBA, etc.) was going through the DB and noticed how the label dimensions were stored to something silly like 6 decimal places. In the UK, we were using millimeters. That kind of precision was never needed nor used, so the admin cut the column down, dropping the decimals. Except he wasn't on the UK server. He was on the US server. And since the US used inches, even 0.1 of an inch is quite a considerable difference for printing a small label!! He went home for the weekend, the Americans came in and outright panicked when their process machines had useless data. My supervisor got phoned up late at night and had to remote in and restore the values from backups. Now, imagine how angry he was when the admin did exactly the same thing the following Monday!! Hooray for the metric system :D
• synicalx 10y ago
  First week as a network engineer, still on probation. I was given the simple task of provisioning a new VLAN onto a few switches, one of which was a fairly large and important aggregation switch. Everything was going ok, then I get to the big switch and move over to one of it's port channels and start adding the vlan there; switchport trunk allowed vlan 123 Shortly after my telnet session dropped. How weird, I thought. I tried re-connecting, no dice. Tried pinging it, nothing. Then I hear a loud "What the fuck?" from the other side of room, and I look up to see about 30 bright red alerts on our board and a huge flood of red from our GLTail monitoring board showing a very large number of PPPoE session ending suddenly. I'd missed the word "add" in my command and had wiped the other 200+ vlan's from that interface which had in turn killed the Internet, Phone, and IPTV of about 30,000 customers. After restarting the switch to get it back to it's startup config, I returned to my desk to find the golden pineapple already displayed prominently on my desk. I also had to wear a cowboy hat for the next 10 changes I made in production. I'd say lesson learned, but then my co-worker did the exact same thing 2 months later while drunk and on call so I don't think we really learned anything there.
  • amingilani 10y ago
    What's the "golden pineapple"?
    • synicalx 10y ago
      Literally a golden pineapple, it's a gold trophy in the shape of a pineapple awarded to those who stuff something up. Good for a laugh, and also a good reminder to pay attention and try to screw up less.
• rosser 10y ago
  Mine is fairly simple: an UPDATE without a WHERE clause on a table tracking Other People's Money. Except that was how we discovered that backups weren't working... Really posting to share one that happened to me, though: At a previous job, my PostgreSQL clusters were on metal (blades; not my choice, but I wasn't given one). We were in the process of replacing the SSDs in the blades, both for capacity and performance. We'd, if I remember correctly, replaced one set (the replica, I think, so we could fail over to it and then upgrade the master). The lead sysadmin decided this represented a golden opportunity to get a side-by-side performance analysis of the new and old drives. (I'll leave aside for the moment the fact that he never said anything about doing this to me, which, you know...) So he ran fio. In read-write mode. Against the block device, not the filesystem. And he did that on the primary, replica, and performance test (so, identical to prod) machines at the same time. About 20 minutes later, one of the developers, who was investigating some other issue, reported seeing "strange errors" in his psql session. I looked at the logs, and everything got very, very still for a moment... We ended up having to rebuild the machines and restore from the previous night's backups (taken 14h prior), troll the Rails logs to find the affected orders, and refund them. I did finally get the large box for WAL archiving I'd long been lobbying for out of the deal, too, so that was nice.
• gargravarr 10y ago
  Got another long story. This one wasn't me personally, but affected the team I was in at the time. The responsible party has moved on (left for another company). Background: I work for a company making business expense software - yes, it really is as dull as it sounds. I used ot be a SQL dev, now a DevOps engineer. At the time, I was still a dev. Our software does all manner of expense tracking, including requests and procurement. As a result, the customer's individual site is usually seeded with a dump of their HR data. The team I worked for managed the importers to deal with all sorts of weird home-grown HR files. One thing the company did right was building a very powerful generic import engine - for something built in-house, it's very flexible, easy to use and works with just about every format I've ever seen. We'd define the rules for transforming the data to our systems and let the import engine chew through it. Obviously this sort of thing lends itself to automation, and we built exactly that. The system defined clients, file drop locations and the import rules to use, then would check regularly for any files to import. One of our clients spotted a bug with their HR importer, so that got switched off in the config table while we worked through it, but the client continued to send us regular HR dumps via SFTP. Not a problem. Fast forward a couple of weeks. We have a new starter who's being trained on the stuff our team manages. The person doing the training, himself the previous most recent joiner to the team (something of a tradition, and hasn't resulted in too much Chinese Whispers) demonstrated the automation engine by creating a new job. In doing so, he manages to commit the dreaded forgotten-WHERE-clause boner. He accidentally switches every single automation job ON. By coincidence, the aforementioned client is alphabetically at the top of the list. And the bug with their importer is unfixed. Nonetheless, the importer starts up, spots 2 weeks' worth of HR dumps for this client, and gets to work. 6 hours later, I spot that clients further down the alphabet haven't had their automated runs start. At the time, the import engine ran single-threaded; I'd complained about it as inefficient, but it's probably this fact that let us realise what was going on. These are big HR dump files, so the importer is taking upwards of an hour per file to process them, but it's not moved past this job. We as a team piece together what's going on behind the scenes. Unfortunately, the client had been using the site at the time, and had run through some very large/expensive procurements, of which we as a company take a cut (our business model). The bug in the HR importer? It was incorrectly closing people's accounts and trashing their records. So while the client has been merrily been ordering expensive stuff on an unaffected account, the importer was inadvertently corrupting the rest. Now, we do have very thorough backups in progress - daily full backups and 15-minute incrementals for production. And they work. Unfortunately, this is where the CTO stepped in. Rather than just roll back the site to the point six hours ago before the import ran, he directed that we fix the HR data instead. The reasoning being, the requests linked out to third parties and couldn't be copied - new requests would have to be made, stopping us replaying the valid data in those 6 hours. Personally I don't know how accurate these claims are, as I wasn't directly involved in what happened next, but the net result was that the guy who committed the booboo, another of my colleagues and my immediate boss were given orders to fix the HR data, writing scripts by hand. It took 3 developers one and a half days to write the scripts to massage the HR data back together. I have to wonder if our cut of this client's bill actually exceeds the daily cost of 3 devs. And there was much frustration along the way, when they started using an internal-only dev site to test the scripts on, only for one of the support personnel to unknowingly overwrite it while troubleshooting an unrelated issue and nuking all their work for half a day. It was a total farce, done purely to save face with the client. Rather than rolling back to a known-good state, we spent a lot of time and effort trying to take a known-bad state back to a might-be-good one. Idiocy. And of course as a result I have to sit through meetings where my boss describes how we can't let developers have direct access to tables in case this happens again, so there's now a suite of stored procedures managing all the config and triggers on the table to stop any other queries. There were no repurcussions for the guy who made the mistake because it was a genuine mistake, but strikes me as a typical knee-jerk overreaction. It did affect me indirectly, because for that day and a half, I was the only one able to work tickets!!