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> corporations seek to remove all of our abilities to take care of ourselves and our communities Please. It's in a corporation's best interest to give the cus

> corporations seek to remove all of our abilities to take care of ourselves and our communities Please. It's in a corporation's best interest to give the customer exactly what he wants. We still have "our abilities to take care of ourselves and our communities," but we also have the option of a corporation providing for our every whim.

renlo 10y ago
It's in the corporation's best interest to ensure a steady income flow. That's about it. Corporations only care about 'what the customer wants' insofar as how much it affects a steady income flow. I think you have misinterpreted what the parent comment was saying. He wasn't saying there are limited options, just that we choose to have corporations take care of things for us, and now that we have chosen this we are more dependent on them. He wasn't stating that you could not take care of yourself if you want to. Just that it's easier to let the corporation do it for you.
- rimantas 10y ago
  No, he sounds like evil coroporations force us to meet friends in coffeshops, etc. When in reality we just don't want to tidy up our houses before inviting friends over, do the dishes, etc. And it also gives us an opportunity to leave the house :)
JammyDodger 10y ago
Then why do corporations spend billions of dollars each year on advertising? Surely it's to convince you to buy something that may not be exactly what you want. A corporation's main goal is to drive up profits and if it's more convenient for them to manipulate a populace into acting a certain way than it is to give the populace exactly what they want then that's what they'll do. There is probably not a conspiracy from corporations or government to undermine people's freedom and what not but it doesn't mean that it isn't the end result.
- kqr 10y ago
  Advertising is 99% about making you aware that theproduct exists and fulfills the needs you already have, and at most 1% about making you want theproduct.
  - JammyDodger 10y ago
    How is that true? What about all the various gadgets that exist that nobody wanted until they were advertised to them? If you don't know about something then how can it possibly be exactly what you want? You wouldn't want it if you didn't know it existed. Or how about brands like Coca-Cola, everyone knows they exist but they keep advertising, surely it's to make you want it!
    - icebraining 10y ago
      If you don't know about something then how can it possibly be exactly what you want? You wouldn't want it if you didn't know it existed. You may want something with accomplishes some goal without knowing exactly what. If a person thinks "I have to go out but I'm waiting for a call", they may not imagine the cellphone as an object, but they still want something that solves their problem. That said, 73.6% of all statistics are made up. Many ads in fact are designed with both goals in mind.
  - mverwijs 10y ago
    [Citation needed]
- deleted 10y ago
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- rimantas 10y ago
  It is to convince that you want this particular product by this particular company over the competition.
  - pbhjpbhj 10y ago
    There are some adverts that sell a product against its competitors. But there are plenty that sell the idea that with a particular company's logo on a product you'll be fashionable. And, there are plenty that sell products that people don't need, at all, using the idea that the product will make your life more fulfilling. We don't watch broadcast TV at home. 30 mins in front of a friend's TV and our kid suddenly 'need' a ton of new stuff. At the cinema "you should get that car Dad", etc.. It's psychological manipulation, it's rarely ever a helpful synopsis of a products comparative specifications.
samsari 10y ago
No, it's actually in the corporation's best interests to have customers who want whatever is most profitable for the corporation to produce. In many many cases, it's more cost effective to modify the customer's wishes than it is to change the corporation and what it produces.
white-flame 10y ago
Many corporations create "needs" that didn't exist before, and spend marketing effort convincing consumers that that need exists. This is telling the customer what they want, or at the very least deflecting existing wants into the corporation's exploitable direction.
baursak 10y ago
> It's in a corporation's best interest to give the customer exactly what he wants. Comcast comes to mind here. Or Better Business Bureau and the sole reason for its existence.
- Arizhel 10y ago
  Exactly. It's in a corporation's best interest to fleece its customers for as much as it can get away with. Monopolies have a much easier time of it.
tmnvix 10y ago
> It's in a corporation's best interest to give the customer exactly what he wants. It's in a corporation's best interest to instil in the customer an idea of what he or she wants. ...and then yes, your version.

renlo 10y ago

It's in the corporation's best interest to ensure a steady income flow. That's about it. Corporations only care about 'what the customer wants' insofar as how much it affects a steady income flow. I think you have misinterpreted what the parent comment was saying. He wasn't saying there are limited options, just that we choose to have corporations take care of things for us, and now that we have chosen this we are more dependent on them. He wasn't stating that you could not take care of yourself if you want to. Just that it's easier to let the corporation do it for you.

rimantas 10y ago
No, he sounds like evil coroporations force us to meet friends in coffeshops, etc. When in reality we just don't want to tidy up our houses before inviting friends over, do the dishes, etc. And it also gives us an opportunity to leave the house :)

JammyDodger 10y ago

Then why do corporations spend billions of dollars each year on advertising? Surely it's to convince you to buy something that may not be exactly what you want. A corporation's main goal is to drive up profits and if it's more convenient for them to manipulate a populace into acting a certain way than it is to give the populace exactly what they want then that's what they'll do. There is probably not a conspiracy from corporations or government to undermine people's freedom and what not but it doesn't mean that it isn't the end result.

kqr 10y ago
Advertising is 99% about making you aware that theproduct exists and fulfills the needs you already have, and at most 1% about making you want theproduct.
- JammyDodger 10y ago
  How is that true? What about all the various gadgets that exist that nobody wanted until they were advertised to them? If you don't know about something then how can it possibly be exactly what you want? You wouldn't want it if you didn't know it existed. Or how about brands like Coca-Cola, everyone knows they exist but they keep advertising, surely it's to make you want it!
  - icebraining 10y ago
    If you don't know about something then how can it possibly be exactly what you want? You wouldn't want it if you didn't know it existed. You may want something with accomplishes some goal without knowing exactly what. If a person thinks "I have to go out but I'm waiting for a call", they may not imagine the cellphone as an object, but they still want something that solves their problem. That said, 73.6% of all statistics are made up. Many ads in fact are designed with both goals in mind.
- mverwijs 10y ago
  [Citation needed]
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rimantas 10y ago
It is to convince that you want this particular product by this particular company over the competition.
- pbhjpbhj 10y ago
  There are some adverts that sell a product against its competitors. But there are plenty that sell the idea that with a particular company's logo on a product you'll be fashionable. And, there are plenty that sell products that people don't need, at all, using the idea that the product will make your life more fulfilling. We don't watch broadcast TV at home. 30 mins in front of a friend's TV and our kid suddenly 'need' a ton of new stuff. At the cinema "you should get that car Dad", etc.. It's psychological manipulation, it's rarely ever a helpful synopsis of a products comparative specifications.

samsari 10y ago

No, it's actually in the corporation's best interests to have customers who want whatever is most profitable for the corporation to produce. In many many cases, it's more cost effective to modify the customer's wishes than it is to change the corporation and what it produces.

white-flame 10y ago

Many corporations create "needs" that didn't exist before, and spend marketing effort convincing consumers that that need exists. This is telling the customer what they want, or at the very least deflecting existing wants into the corporation's exploitable direction.

baursak 10y ago

> It's in a corporation's best interest to give the customer exactly what he wants. Comcast comes to mind here. Or Better Business Bureau and the sole reason for its existence.

Arizhel 10y ago
Exactly. It's in a corporation's best interest to fleece its customers for as much as it can get away with. Monopolies have a much easier time of it.

tmnvix 10y ago

> It's in a corporation's best interest to give the customer exactly what he wants. It's in a corporation's best interest to instil in the customer an idea of what he or she wants. ...and then yes, your version.