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If you think you're being "harassed" by the device offering to use essential features of the platform then perhaps it's not the device for you? I've used iOS fo

If you think you're being "harassed" by the device offering to use essential features of the platform then perhaps it's not the device for you? I've used iOS for years and have never found any prompts that are remotely harassing about anything iirc. It's been nearly two years since they started requiring all apps and updates to be 64 bit, it's not a huge surprise this is coming.

mulletbum 10y ago
I think cm2187's use of the word "harassed" is grossly overstated. Only one of the three things he mentions even has a prompt at initial setup, but even then, skipping iCloud setup leads to absolutely zero prompts from then on.
- cm2187 10y ago
  No Apple Pay, Apple Wallet and iCloud get prompted with a confirmation prompt (so you have to decline twice each) on pretty much every iOS upgrade. I do think that "harassed" is the appropriate term for this repetitive nagging.
  - mulletbum 10y ago
    You mean the upgrade, that involved the wizard setup that shows users new features?
    - cm2187 10y ago
      I am not sure if it is the wizard setup, but when it has updated iOS, it reboots, and on first boot I am greated with multiple prompts to start using each of these services, in a similar way than if it was a new iphone. But this is not for new features. The same prompts come back at every update, even if I opted out many times before.
      - mulletbum 10y ago
        I would not call a update and setup screen "harassed." Pop-up ads are being harassed, iClouds prompts without updates is harassed.
MagnumOpus 10y ago
> the device offering to use essential features of the platform If you think "apple pay, apple music, icloud" are essential features of the platform, you are misinformed. They are attempts to lock you into a platform by providing an (inferior but embedded) alternative to products in the respective market. > I've used iOS for years and have never found any prompts that are remotely harassing about anything Then you have never tried avoiding to upload all your personal information into the Apple icloud. Harassment at every minor dot-dot update.

mulletbum 10y ago

I think cm2187's use of the word "harassed" is grossly overstated. Only one of the three things he mentions even has a prompt at initial setup, but even then, skipping iCloud setup leads to absolutely zero prompts from then on.

cm2187 10y ago
No Apple Pay, Apple Wallet and iCloud get prompted with a confirmation prompt (so you have to decline twice each) on pretty much every iOS upgrade. I do think that "harassed" is the appropriate term for this repetitive nagging.
- mulletbum 10y ago
  You mean the upgrade, that involved the wizard setup that shows users new features?
  - cm2187 10y ago
    I am not sure if it is the wizard setup, but when it has updated iOS, it reboots, and on first boot I am greated with multiple prompts to start using each of these services, in a similar way than if it was a new iphone. But this is not for new features. The same prompts come back at every update, even if I opted out many times before.
    - mulletbum 10y ago
      I would not call a update and setup screen "harassed." Pop-up ads are being harassed, iClouds prompts without updates is harassed.

MagnumOpus 10y ago

> the device offering to use essential features of the platform If you think "apple pay, apple music, icloud" are essential features of the platform, you are misinformed. They are attempts to lock you into a platform by providing an (inferior but embedded) alternative to products in the respective market. > I've used iOS for years and have never found any prompts that are remotely harassing about anything Then you have never tried avoiding to upload all your personal information into the Apple icloud. Harassment at every minor dot-dot update.