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Are 'YP' the initials of an employee or is this an acronym I don't know?
by TimWolla 10y ago
Are 'YP' the initials of an employee or is this an acronym I don't know?
- Perihelion 10y agoYes, those are the initials of an employee here. Sorry for the confusion!
- detaro 10y agoAs much as I appreciate GitLabs extreme openness, that's maybe something that by policy shouldn't be part of published reports. Internal process is one thing, if something goes really bad customers might not be so good at "blameless postmortems" if they have a name to blame.
- sytse 10y agoThat is why we went with initials. And I hope customers understand the blame is with all of us, starting with me. Not with the person in the arena. https://twitter.com/sytses/status/826598260831842308 https://twitter.com/sytses/status/826598260831842308
- grhmc 10y agoIt seems to me that, as a customer, it is blame-shifting away from the company to a particular person. Blameless post-mortems are great, but when speaking to people outside the company I think it is important to own it collectively, "after a second or two we notice we ran it on db1.cluster.gitlab.com, instead of db2.cluster.gitlab.com." I believe this isn't your intention, but that is how I interpreted it.
- greenleafjacob 10y agoIn our postmortems we explicitly avoid referring to names and only refer to "engineers" or specific teams. There is no reason to refer to specific names if your intention is a systems/process fix.
- antocv 10y agoTo me those "Engineers" read as faceless replaceable cogs. This initials make it personal, its better, we can now say "YP" thats exactly you, hey, chin up. Sounds better than "engineering team 42". You write CEOs name on all your publications, of course always taking credit/glory, but why not let engineers do the same, take credit/ownership when doing a nice commits, and when fucking up. We're all people first, and prefer to speak/talk to people and not Engineering Team MailBox at Enterprise Corporation.
- sytse 10y agoWe are all responsible for this, starting with me. We don't blame any person. References to people are just to determine what happend. Also see https://twitter.com/sytses/status/826598260831842308 https://twitter.com/sytses/status/826598260831842308
- grhmc 10y agoYeah, I know, I read your reply. I think it is wrong.
- StavrosK 10y agoIs your username a Spin reference?
- Perihelion 10y agoHaha, it wasn't intentional. I'm just a space nerd. That book ranks pretty highly on my list of things every space nerd should read though.
- StavrosK 10y agoI quite enjoyed it! Also, +1 for space. And Greek.
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- CameronBanga 10y agoI think it's a staff member. Can't remember first name, Yuri maybe, who is fairly active with the project.
- YorickPeterse 10y agoNope, that would be me.
- jdhendrickson 10y agoI've been there myself, it was at the start of my career and almost ended it. I know how incredibly emotional this kind of thing can be. Just understand you aren't the first, you wont be the last and shit happens. If you are ever in Philly I'll buy you a beer if you drink, and a dinner if you don't.
- refulgentis 10y agoAlas, poor Yorick!
- AlexB138 10y agoThanks for the transparency. Doesn't always feel good to have missteps aired in public, but it makes us all a little better as a community to be clear about where mistakes can be made.
- bigiain 10y agoTough night dude. I'll buy you a drink or three if you're ever in Sydney...
- sytse 10y agoSorry for the rough night Yorick. This could happen to all of us but of course it happens to the person that is working the hardest. <3
- ben_jones 10y agoI'll pour one out for you next time I go out.
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- plttn 10y agoFrom looking at the context of the way YP is referenced (link to a slack archive), I believe YP is an employee.