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> given that these people are politically unpopular and causing issues for British Columbia. so who are you speaking for when you use the blanket term "these p

> given that these people are politically unpopular and causing issues for British Columbia. so who are you speaking for when you use the blanket term "these people"? Are Chinese Born Canadians and other East Asian Canadians included in your labels? I'm seeing more and more of these anti-Chinese comments popping up on reddit /r/vancouver and frankly annoyed to see similar fear mongering and FUD spreading fake comments outside of that cesspool of bitter and shut in crowd. What the hell does British Columbia have to do with this man? He made his money in China and he got kidnapped. What possible blame do you place on this person or the government of BC? As far as I am aware, Canada has never successfully extracted hostages or expats in physical trouble by foreign government or militias. There's no Seal Team Six and CSIS really isn't tasked with Jason Bourne styled missions which you are thinking of.

micaksica 10y ago
> There's no Seal Team Six and CSIS really isn't tasked with Jason Bourne styled missions which you are thinking of. I'm not sure how you extrapolated my post to this extreme. I replied to a poster below as to how I am viewing the politics of the situation in more detail, if you'd prefer to get a more reasoned view than the "gut summary". I'm not anti-Chinese. I don't live in Vancouver. It would be rather strange for me to be anti-Chinese; see my bio. I personally get a lot of benefit from East Asia. If anything, you could say that I am in many ways pro-Chinese, but I support the Chinese people. What I do have is a strong dislike for people like this man, who have made billions for themselves through graft, rent-seeking, and cronyism by ingratiating themselves with the party elite. Much of this man's economic wealth is extracted from ordinary Chinese people. When I wrote "these people" I was not talking about Chinese: I was talking about Chinese nationals that made their wealth through corruption and exploitation instead of providing true value to their greater countrymen, then run off to a Western sovereign state in hopes that their actions don't catch up with them.
- brilliantcode 10y ago
  My bad I've been reading a lot of negative comments on /r/vancouver and my trigger level was too sensitive.
uiri 10y ago
I interpreted "these people" to mean wealthy Chinese-born Chinese nationals who are taking their wealth out of China and parking it in British Columbia real estate. This would exclude Canadian-born Canadian citizens of East Asian descent. This man obtained Canadian citizenship. He must have ties to one province or another. British Columbia is the most likely candidate since it is on the West Coast.
marcosdumay 10y ago
> so who are you speaking for when you use the blanket term "these people"? I'm not the GP, but I think it very clearly means corrupt people. Still, I have almost as much problem taking China's government accusation of corruption on face value as I have believing somebody can honestly become a billionaire in China.
Tiktaalik 10y ago
> I'm seeing more and more of these anti-Chinese comments popping up on reddit /r/vancouver and frankly annoyed to see similar fear mongering and FUD spreading fake comments outside of that cesspool of bitter and shut in crowd. It's not really an 'anti-Chinese' sentiment I'm seeing. It's more that British Columbians aren't happy with the effects of the influx of global capital and high net worth individuals on Vancouver. An additional factor into the negative attitudes around the influx of high net worth foreigners there is a sense (coupled with a fair bit of evidence) that many of these real estate speculators and high net worth individuals aren't playing by the rules and are avoiding taxes and other rules.
hluska 10y ago
I understand that this is a sensitive issue, but your point would be stronger if you dropped the tone by several degrees. In this case, you seriously misrepresented the parent and turned what should be a very civil conversation into the polarized bullshit that absolutely ruins the internet.
- brilliantcode 10y ago
  Yes, my fault for being emotional and on the edge. I guess my jimmies have been rustled for lack of a better word in the context of populism and my lone campaign of troll eradication on reddit have made me far too sensitive. I'm going to take some time off from reddit and focus on HN.
  - hluska 10y ago
    I've read more of your comments and it's clear that you are very smart. Please don't try to eradicate trolls. Instead, focus on doing. With your mind, you will accomplish amazing things while all the trolls sit in their moms' basements, shitting on people who actually accomplish things. My email address is in my profile. Feel free to use it!

micaksica 10y ago

> There's no Seal Team Six and CSIS really isn't tasked with Jason Bourne styled missions which you are thinking of. I'm not sure how you extrapolated my post to this extreme. I replied to a poster below as to how I am viewing the politics of the situation in more detail, if you'd prefer to get a more reasoned view than the "gut summary". I'm not anti-Chinese. I don't live in Vancouver. It would be rather strange for me to be anti-Chinese; see my bio. I personally get a lot of benefit from East Asia. If anything, you could say that I am in many ways pro-Chinese, but I support the Chinese people. What I do have is a strong dislike for people like this man, who have made billions for themselves through graft, rent-seeking, and cronyism by ingratiating themselves with the party elite. Much of this man's economic wealth is extracted from ordinary Chinese people. When I wrote "these people" I was not talking about Chinese: I was talking about Chinese nationals that made their wealth through corruption and exploitation instead of providing true value to their greater countrymen, then run off to a Western sovereign state in hopes that their actions don't catch up with them.

brilliantcode 10y ago
My bad I've been reading a lot of negative comments on /r/vancouver and my trigger level was too sensitive.

uiri 10y ago

I interpreted "these people" to mean wealthy Chinese-born Chinese nationals who are taking their wealth out of China and parking it in British Columbia real estate. This would exclude Canadian-born Canadian citizens of East Asian descent. This man obtained Canadian citizenship. He must have ties to one province or another. British Columbia is the most likely candidate since it is on the West Coast.

marcosdumay 10y ago

> so who are you speaking for when you use the blanket term "these people"? I'm not the GP, but I think it very clearly means corrupt people. Still, I have almost as much problem taking China's government accusation of corruption on face value as I have believing somebody can honestly become a billionaire in China.

Tiktaalik 10y ago

> I'm seeing more and more of these anti-Chinese comments popping up on reddit /r/vancouver and frankly annoyed to see similar fear mongering and FUD spreading fake comments outside of that cesspool of bitter and shut in crowd. It's not really an 'anti-Chinese' sentiment I'm seeing. It's more that British Columbians aren't happy with the effects of the influx of global capital and high net worth individuals on Vancouver. An additional factor into the negative attitudes around the influx of high net worth foreigners there is a sense (coupled with a fair bit of evidence) that many of these real estate speculators and high net worth individuals aren't playing by the rules and are avoiding taxes and other rules.

hluska 10y ago

I understand that this is a sensitive issue, but your point would be stronger if you dropped the tone by several degrees. In this case, you seriously misrepresented the parent and turned what should be a very civil conversation into the polarized bullshit that absolutely ruins the internet.

brilliantcode 10y ago
Yes, my fault for being emotional and on the edge. I guess my jimmies have been rustled for lack of a better word in the context of populism and my lone campaign of troll eradication on reddit have made me far too sensitive. I'm going to take some time off from reddit and focus on HN.
- hluska 10y ago
  I've read more of your comments and it's clear that you are very smart. Please don't try to eradicate trolls. Instead, focus on doing. With your mind, you will accomplish amazing things while all the trolls sit in their moms' basements, shitting on people who actually accomplish things. My email address is in my profile. Feel free to use it!