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You think Indonesia doesn't have problems with terrorism? (Edit: also, Pakistan?). The idea that this is a reasonable counterterrorism measure by any means is a
by chickenfries 10y ago
You think Indonesia doesn't have problems with terrorism? (Edit: also, Pakistan?). The idea that this is a reasonable counterterrorism measure by any means is a farce that doesn't stand up to the lightest of scrutiny. It's a test of executive power, perhaps for something more sinister [1].
[1] https://medium.com/@yonatanzunger/trial-balloon-for-a-coup-e024990891d5#.dk1h2qrd7 https://medium.com/@yonatanzunger/trial-balloon-for-a-coup-e...
- thenipper 10y agoOr Nigeria?
- sfifs 10y agoNot terrorism problems affecting the US - only Indonesia and Australia.
- saosebastiao 10y agoThe countries that were banned also do not have terrorism problems affecting the US.
- MikusR 10y agoThen why is US bombing them?
- simplyluke 10y agoExcellent question many of us have been asking for the past decade or so.
- wybiral 10y agoA long history of internal conflicts turned into messy proxy wars.
- egopulsus 10y agoare we bombing indonesia or pakistan? dont think we are
- glomph 10y agoThis comment is increadable.
- chickenfries 10y agoSo explain Pakistan and Saudi Arabia being left out?
- striking 10y agoIt's a list inherited from the Obama administration. The best time to argue about whether this list stands up to scrutiny or not was years ago. Edit: I'm not making comments about Trump's actions (specifically, I'm not defending what he did). As for whether this particular list stands up to scrutiny, that question should have been asked a long time ago.
- jstalin 10y agoAnd signed by Obama himself.
- chickenfries 10y agoThe second best time is today.
- Daishiman 10y agoTrump's use of this measure, unlike his predecessor, signals an intent that wasn't there in the prior administration. That's why people are concerned.
- GeneralMayhem 10y agoWell, sort of. Obama was president when the list was created, but it was forced through by a Republican-majority Congress. http://www.snopes.com/trump-immigration-order-obama/ http://www.snopes.com/trump-immigration-order-obama/
- lol214365 10y agoObama had veto power. How did republicans force it through? What happened was Obama signed the bill imposing exceptions to the Visa Waiver Program in December 2015, and then his own DHS added the current list of middle eastern nations in February 2016. It is the most tenuous argument to act like that was the work of the GOP.
- GeneralMayhem 10y agoIt was a rider on the omnibus funding bill. If that bill doesn't pass, the government shuts down. It's effectively veto-proof.
- ihsw 10y agoPakistan and Indonesia maintain good relations with the US and they are able to provide reassurances that radical members of their Muslim populace won't try to spread Jihad across the world.
- egopulsus 10y agoIt's very simple, those countries are not actively engaged in exporting terrorism especially pertaining to isil.