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XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350
- Jonnax 10y agoIf it's almost fully working, what isn't working? Ah, there's a todo list, missed that on my first look through: Refine AppleHDA New FixUSB.sh to fix a bug that external devices will disappear when cold boot into macOS Import IOPowerManagement ACPI Keyboard
- dizzy3gg 10y agoTODO List Next week I have 3 final exams, so I will be back in next Wednesday! What I will do next week are listed below - Remove patched ACPI tables directories(precomiple, raw, comiple) every time before acpi compile - Add reboot fix ResetAddress = 0xB2 and ResetValue = 0x73 to script using auto detection from FACP table - Refine ACPI patches such that all XPS 13 9350 users can enjoy(still in progress) Refine AppleHDA New FixUSB.sh to fix a bug that external devices will disappear when cold boot into macOS Import IOPowerManagement ACPI Keyboard
- mosselman 10y agoThe 'TODO' in the README has a list.
- mosselman 10y agoA video would be cool. This seems like a fun projects for hackers, but I couldn't just install this and drop it off at my mom's for her to use it seems.
- jo909 10y agoI agree, even if it were running perfectly after installation Apple could break that combination anytime (intentionally or just by accident) with an update, and not doing updates is clearly also a bad idea.
- thehnguy 10y agoI was imagining my mom taking it into an Apple Store :). Or maybe trying to get phone support: "Ok, what type of computer do you have?" "A Dell" [silence]
- thehnguy 10y agoYeah. You don't want to setup your family member with a hackintosh. However, for folks like me who are really disappointed with my MacBook Pro options, and really impressed with the PC innovation we're seeing, I'm interested.
- illuminati1911 10y agoJust out of curiosity, what is this "PC innovation" you are talking about?
- op00to 10y agoInterested in running untrusted code not signed by Apple? k.
- jmkni 10y agoThe madman!
- pilif 10y agoThe README file doesn't reference iMessage and Facetime. Traditionally, these are very picky about the machine they are running on and normally refuse to sign in on Hackintoshes. Has anybody tried the steps here and tried using iMessage?
- sleepychu 10y agoHave you tried variations on this?[0] [0] - https://www.reddit.com/r/hackintosh/comments/2wohwn/getting_imessage_working_on_10102_generating/ https://www.reddit.com/r/hackintosh/comments/2wohwn/getting_...
- sounds 10y agoVery interesting post. In it, I learned that Apple automatically blacklists Apple IDs who log into iMessage using a Hackintosh -- Apple is not "anti-Hackintosh" but spammers apparently try to create lots of accounts, calling customer support you can get yourself un-blacklisted by answering some security questions. The instructions basically avoid the blacklist.
- zachruss92 10y agoCool project, congrats on getting a far as you have. Hopefully the remaining To Dos won't give you to much of a hassle!
- EE84M3i 10y agoTo clarify: this is OS X (MacOS 10)? What version/release? As far as I can tell it doesn't explicitly state anywhere in the README, let alone title.
- Tepix 10y agoThere are different guides for Sierra and its predecessor.
- helb 10y agoYeah. Apple renamed "OS X" to "macOS", starting with 10.12. There are some conditions for handling "10.12+" and "10.12-" in the Deploy.sh script, so i reckon it aims to support multiple versions.
- ClassyJacket 10y agoThe OS X name is no longer used. The Mac OS is now called MacOS. The changelog mentions "Fixed HD520 glitches on Sierra credit Pikeralpha" so that implies it's the latest major release.
- shaki-dora 10y agoI run a hackintosh desktop with a i7-6700K, 32GB RAM, GTX960, Samsung 950PRO. It's quite the beast in terms of performance and I've had less trouble with drivers than I had with Linux. That being said, I have a MacBook Pro as well, and it wouldn't feel right to install macOS on a Dell notebook. Considering the value macOS has for me, and other benefits of MacBooks (build quality, trackpad, possibly screen although I haven't seen the DELL), I feel the price is fair and I don't want to undermine those creating these excellent products – you may even want to consider what today's DELLs would be without Apple. I doubt that we'd have seen retina screens without their lead. On the Desktop, where I do a lot of work in tensorflow, Apple just doesn't give me a choice. The graphics and CPU options aren't available, and if they were, it'd be almost a 5-digit sticker price. It's probably a net positive for them because it lowers the chances of me leaving Apple to run an illegal copy of macOS. Note that setting up a hackintosh will probably cost you at least a day the first time, and anything from "it just worked" to another day every time you want to install an update. For a professional with opportunity costs, it's a losing proposition for notebooks. The hackintosh community is also extremely unprofessional, with many tools still on sourceforge, some doing strange things that appeared to me to be attempts to get paid for work incorporating GPL code, documentation being almost exclusively of the walkthrough-type (i. e.: "set uia_exclude=HS12" with no explanation to be found anywhere as to what "uia" or "HS12" are), and the worst user interfaces ever invented by anyone not working for a printer manufacturer.
- widforss 10y agoBuild quality, trackpad and screen are the hallmarks of the XPS13 line. However, it seems very risky to install this on a laptop, since driver support and such will change on Apple's whim.
- dcdevito 10y agoAs a Mac user of 9 years, I sold my 2015 rMBP and eventually built my own rig and went the hackintosh route. But it wasn't worth it, sound would drop after each update, I had some weird visual glitch near the Apple menu logo, there still isn't any driver support for GTX 1070/1080 cards, and I had major sleep/wake issues. In the end it wasn't a Mac experience, it was almost as much work as Desktop Linux but far less work than Windows 10. So I stuck with Windows 10
- BoorishBears 10y agoAs a Zenbook owner I couldn't stand certain issues with Windows and went the Hackintosh route eventually. Then one day I posted about it on here, realized how silly it was I was investing so much effort into turning my Windows machine into a MBP and traded it for a 2015 MBP. I took a big hit in raw power (i7 to i5, 940m to integrated) but it was worth it.
- slowmotiony 10y agoCan you please expand on how it was worth it? Seems like you had the same OS running except on a way weaker laptop.
- dcdevito 10y agoMost devs simply hate Windows, no matter how much better value Windows hardware gives you. I used to hate Microsoft in every sense years ago, but not anymore. Win10 is a great OS, I don't understand why more people just don't give it a chance. Especially with WSL now there's almost little excuse to use Linux or macOS other than bias against Microsoft.
- stupidcar 10y agoFor me, the problem is high DPI support. It just works in macOS, even when mixing high DPI screens with lower DPI ones. In all the version of Windows I tried, including 10, things look like garbage. Things are too big, or too small, or pixelated, or blurry. I could understand it when Windows 8 first came out, and high DPI screens were still relatively rare. But for the support to still be so bad, years later, is unforgivable.
- Etheryte 10y agoWhat's awesome in my opinion, it seems this is a side-project of a student. From the project readme todo list: Next week I have 3 final exams, so I will be back in next Wednesday
- lanius 10y agoHe certainly looks very young, judging from his Github profile picture. Wish I was that smart at that age!
- sgt 10y agoI noticed the DELL XPS13 is a touch screen laptop. As a person who generally obsesses about having no finger marks on my computer screen (I feel differently about my iPad), I find it interesting that people would want to do this. Any other views?
- macca321 10y agoSome people just don't obsess over minor details like finger marks. FWIW my flat is generally quite untidy.
- rhodysurf 10y agoI was skeptical too but you really get used to it, especially when reading and scrolling, its very nice. Its not bad cleaning the screen for 1 minute ever few days.
- josteink 10y ago> As a person who generally obsesses about having no finger marks on my computer screen For me it's about screen glare. I absolutely refuse to buy a machine with a non-matte screen.
- robotresearcher 10y agoXPS 13 has matte screen option. http://www.mobilegeeks.com/dell-xps-13-matte-vs-glossy/ http://www.mobilegeeks.com/dell-xps-13-matte-vs-glossy/
- haspok 10y agoIt is not touch screen unless you want it to be. The FHD version has a non-reflective matte screen that is not touch enabled. It also adds ~1-2 hours to the battery life...
- Jonnax 10y agoWell I was in two minds when I ordered it. Since I wanted the i7 and 3200x1800 screen that only came with a touch screen. Initially I worried about how clean the screen was. But in the end using the laptop with a touch screen is really convenient. Pause a video by tapping on the screen. Quit an application by tapping the X. Scrolling through web pages. Also I often want to make a quick recording with voice recorder, tapping the record and stop button is really convenient. Fingerprints show up in sunlight but in normal usage it isn't as visible, but I do keep a micro fibre cloth to wipe the screen every once in a while. I'd recommend giving it a go with Windows 10 for a while, it'll grow on you, you'll just have to get over the initial desire to keep the screen pristine.
- alien_ 10y agoHow hard would it be to convert it to other more or less related laptop models? Would it make sense to have a shared component that applies on multiple models, and a smaller part to be model-specific?
- jmkni 10y agoNice work! Almost tempted to try it on my XPS 15!
- bitwize 10y agoDMCA shutdown of this repo in 3... 2... 1...
- apocalyptic0n3 10y agoApple has actually been pretty tolerant of the Hackintosh community so long as they don't share pirated copies of macOS or try to profit from it. I doubt they will have any issue with this project (or the dozens of other projects like it)
- heydonovan 10y agoI'd love to ditch OSX, but I can't work on Windows. Last time I used Windows was with Windows XP, but now that bash has been ported over, does that mean I should be able to do all the things I can do on my Macbook? SSH to remote machines, install rvm/mongo/postgres, update all my packages with something similar to brew, etc.
- bostand 10y ago1. Yes it's basically Ubuntu 14.04 minus the gui 2. How can you say you can't use Windows if you haven't used one since xp??
- benjaminl 10y agoSince it is basically Ubuntu 14.04, if you install an Windows X Server, you can have a GUI also.
- Longhanks 10y agoThough this is not supported (nor intended for the future), hacked into the system, very slow and full of bugs.
- bostand 10y agoWhat are you talking about? Exactly what is the "hack" here?
- kminehart 10y agoYou're running Windows running an X server running your Linux WM to run your linux apps. It's not a hack per se, but there's definitely more to the equation, and thus a lot more room for error.
- sigjuice 10y agoCan you be more specific on what errors? I'm sure there are several good X servers that available for Windows. The arrangement of running X clients that talk to a remote X server is pretty standard.
- technofiend 10y agoI wonder if Apple could sell a developers edition of MacOS that supported a vetted list of non-Apple hardware? Even if that was a short list and it was $999 a seat, I'm thinking people would pay the price to stay with their preferred OS and run the latest hardware.
- Longhanks 10y agoThey certainly could, but Apple makes most of the money based on hardware. They'd probably shoot themselves in the foot.
- technofiend 10y agoYeah obviously they do make huge money on the hardware, but the question remains: is there some price point where they'd like MacOS run on non-apple hardware?
- cmurf 10y agoNo, the supply and demand curves don't overlap.
- vbezhenar 10y ago> I wonder if Apple could sell a developers edition of MacOS that supported a vetted list of non-Apple hardware? Even if that was a short list and it was $999 a seat, I'm thinking people would pay the price to stay with their preferred OS and run the latest hardware. How that situation would be different from now? It's not like Apple actively trying to defend itself from hackintoshes, they just don't care at all, so you can use hackintosh if you want. Apple supports selected list of hardware which is present in their products and it's not something proprietary, so you can buy those parts and build computer. For $999 I bet most people would just torrent it. For $99 there wouldn't be enough purchases to justify a lot of additional work, especially support, because selling product presumes that you're going to help customers with their issues. What Apple probably would do is just to release their OS X free without legal restrictions and with some working installer, loader, etc. It's not a lot of work and you're not getting support if you're not buying their hardware. Then hardware manufacturers would build drivers, at least for some of their hardware. Now hackintosh doesn't exist for manufacturers, because it's not completely legal and community around hackintosh isn't good enough to write their own drivers.
- kybernetyk 10y agoIt's really astounding how well OS X works on notebooks. My brother has an old Thinkpad X220 (with IPS panel) which he converted into a Hackintosh. The only thing he needed to do is to replace the internal wifi module with another one (cost roughly $8). This was done in 15 minutes as the old Thinkpads are highly serviceable. He's pretty happy with the machine as a MBA replacement. (He's waiting for an update MBA model. That optimist.) I myself converted my gaming rig into a hackintosh some time ago. Now I got a beefy "Mac Pro" for a fraction of the original's price. Also I can upgrade and fix it myself. When my current 2013 MBP breaks I think I'm going to buy the small MacBook (the plain one) and do my heavy computation work on the Hackintosh.
- new299 10y agoIf you buy the MacBook I recommend you try the keyboard first. I find it absolutely awful to type on. The specs are also pretty poor. I'd opt for a Macbook Air perhaps?
- ge96 10y agoMacbook Air vs. Dell XPS 13 Infinity, first step, get a job.
- omouse 10y agoUgh why would you ruin a perfectly fine GNU/Linux machine with Mac OS X?! ;-)
- hogrammer 10y agoYou can get a 100% working Windows 10 machine.
- tambourine_man 10y agoFrom big things, like being able to run photoshop on a unix machine, to small things, like the command key not competing with control, beautiful text rendering, OS X is almost perfect, and it's been for so many year. Why oh why can't they freaking update the damn hardware. This is one of those situations where Apple secretive culture really hurts the entire industry. A simple statement like, we screwed the Mac Pro redesign, but a new one is coming in June, we had manufacturing problems, or we are not interested in this market anymore, would be a lot better than simply selling a 3 year old computer for the same price. That doesn't do anyone any good
- Johan-bjareholt 10y agoBe very careful with calling any software more than a few hundred lines "almost perfect". The case here is that you have gotten used to the workarounds of macOS, because I'm pretty certain that most people that are not fanboys will agree that all operating systems have a lot of really ugly parts and it's just a matter of choosing the one that has the least downsides for your use case. Operating systems are way too big to be able to be even close to perfection.
- adultSwim 10y agoWhat's the process for updates?
- kennell 10y agoMinor updates, security patches etc. via the App Store usually work just fine. Major OS updates (like going from El Capitan to Sierra) are a pain in the a. But there is no guarantee for any of this, as a rule of thumb: the closer you are to "original" hardware, the less problems you will experience.
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- pjmlp 10y agoI really don't get the Hackintosh culture. If one wants a Mac it should buy one, not kind of "pirate" it to run on a Frankenstein system. It is the whole experience that counts. If one isn't willing to pay for Apple's hardware, or not happy with the existing options, then get a PC and whatever flavor of open source UNIX variant and help improving the whole experience.
- taude 10y agoI've had a hackintosh. I'll speak from those of us who've built desktop Hackintosh's because of Apples lack of Pro builds that are easily updatable. For about $1200 I built a hackintosh desktop that scores about 20,000 on the Geekbench and various other scores. It's run stable, etc....for about 18 months. It's a pain to maintain, though. (Upgrades and getting the nVidia Web drivers etc.) I want to actually test out how well the linux sub-system and bash works on Windows 10, to see if I just move my development there. I'm already on a lot of cross compatible apps that I can run on both systems. I should probably also just move to a virtualized/containerized local dev env on Linux, though, and be done with it. I still love me my 11" MB Air, though because no-one has been able to touch Apple on the trackpad. Also, I love how sleep with closing and opening the lid....just works.
- some-guy 10y agoAs a former Hackintosher, there's the fun of it being something that's not supposed to work (sticking it to the man, one would say). For me personally, I used to have a full-fledged personal recording studio, and the price of a Mac desktop was just ridiculous. There's no better platform for audio software than Apple.
- xenihn 10y ago>Frankenstein system They're much more stable now with Clover and UEFI installs. >then get a PC and whatever flavor of open source UNIX variant and help improving the whole experience Not realistic.
- romanovcode 10y agoMaybe they want OSX but not 3 year old hardware.
- hapless 10y agoYour karma check for today: There once was was a user that whined his existing OS was so blind, he’d do better to pirate an OS that ran great but found his hardware declined. Please don’t steal Mac OS! Really, that’s way uncool. (C) Apple Computer, Inc.