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Maybe one day no one would like to live in USA, and the citizens will start migrating, investors will choose other countries, and then only "Americans" will liv

by xHopen 10y ago

Maybe one day no one would like to live in USA, and the citizens will start migrating, investors will choose other countries, and then only "Americans" will live there. Then people will realise , we fucked it up , probably they will never get it.

emperorcezar 10y ago
Hopefully at that point they can migrate from the US to the Republic of California http://www.yescalifornia.org/ http://www.yescalifornia.org/
- big_youth 10y ago
  I live in SF and hate how glibly techies talk about secession. It may be because I grew up in the south and it's part of our history but techies seem to forget that the bloodiest US conflict in history was to prevent this very thing. To even entertain the idea that secession would not result in a mass amounts of destruction death exemplifies the Bay area bubble mentality.
  - freehunter 10y ago
    Eh, it's a fun thing to think about, especially knowing it will never happen. Texas fantasizes about it all the time. Every few months there's some kind of map being posted here about how to split the US into different countries or re-draw the state borders or some other fantasy map. It's just a fun daydream. I live in Michigan and several times we've had people from the Upper Peninsula try to get support for them to create a new state, ignoring the fact that they would be creating one of the poorest, most uneducated, and most unpopulated states, and it'd never be allowed. It's a symbolic gesture to say "I don't agree with X policy". the UP of Michigan does it to protest Lansing tax policies, Texas does it to protest liberal federal policies, California does it to protest right-wing federal policies. And everyone knows full well it won't go any farther than a protest.
    - Neliquat 10y ago
      Its symbolic of not playing well with others and being bigoted against their view of the rest of the country. See: Texas Seriously, it may be all in fun, but it paints a sad message about the perceptions of people who participate.
      - pm90 10y ago
        I think its just one way to vent frustration in the face of powerlessness. Like a protest against State's powerlessness. So Texas secessionists may talk and hold rallies but they don't (IMO, living in Austin, Texas) seriously consider leaving.
  - flukus 10y ago
    > To even entertain the idea that secession would not result in a mass amounts of destruction death exemplifies the Bay area bubble mentality. Why? There's no reason secession has to be a violent affair. Very recently we almost saw Scotland succeed in a perfectly peaceful way and we're now witnessing the UK do the same.
  - Clubber 10y ago
    That time is very interesting to study. The economics of it are mind-bending. I think California has a ways to go before it becomes that economically powerful. "in 1860, the value of the slaves was “roughly three times greater than the total amount invested in banks,” and it was “equal to about seven times the total value of all currency in circulation in the country, three times the value of the entire livestock population, twelve times the value of the entire U.S. " http://www.pbs.org/wnet/african-americans-many-rivers-to-cross/history/why-was-cotton-king/ http://www.pbs.org/wnet/african-americans-many-rivers-to-cro...
- xHopen 10y ago
  The whole thing is so absurd that sometimes I wonder whether this is a computer simulation or not.

by xHopen 10y ago

emperorcezar 10y ago

Hopefully at that point they can migrate from the US to the Republic of California http://www.yescalifornia.org/ http://www.yescalifornia.org/

big_youth 10y ago
I live in SF and hate how glibly techies talk about secession. It may be because I grew up in the south and it's part of our history but techies seem to forget that the bloodiest US conflict in history was to prevent this very thing. To even entertain the idea that secession would not result in a mass amounts of destruction death exemplifies the Bay area bubble mentality.
- freehunter 10y ago
  Eh, it's a fun thing to think about, especially knowing it will never happen. Texas fantasizes about it all the time. Every few months there's some kind of map being posted here about how to split the US into different countries or re-draw the state borders or some other fantasy map. It's just a fun daydream. I live in Michigan and several times we've had people from the Upper Peninsula try to get support for them to create a new state, ignoring the fact that they would be creating one of the poorest, most uneducated, and most unpopulated states, and it'd never be allowed. It's a symbolic gesture to say "I don't agree with X policy". the UP of Michigan does it to protest Lansing tax policies, Texas does it to protest liberal federal policies, California does it to protest right-wing federal policies. And everyone knows full well it won't go any farther than a protest.
  - Neliquat 10y ago
    Its symbolic of not playing well with others and being bigoted against their view of the rest of the country. See: Texas Seriously, it may be all in fun, but it paints a sad message about the perceptions of people who participate.
    - pm90 10y ago
      I think its just one way to vent frustration in the face of powerlessness. Like a protest against State's powerlessness. So Texas secessionists may talk and hold rallies but they don't (IMO, living in Austin, Texas) seriously consider leaving.
- flukus 10y ago
  > To even entertain the idea that secession would not result in a mass amounts of destruction death exemplifies the Bay area bubble mentality. Why? There's no reason secession has to be a violent affair. Very recently we almost saw Scotland succeed in a perfectly peaceful way and we're now witnessing the UK do the same.
- Clubber 10y ago
  That time is very interesting to study. The economics of it are mind-bending. I think California has a ways to go before it becomes that economically powerful. "in 1860, the value of the slaves was “roughly three times greater than the total amount invested in banks,” and it was “equal to about seven times the total value of all currency in circulation in the country, three times the value of the entire livestock population, twelve times the value of the entire U.S. " http://www.pbs.org/wnet/african-americans-many-rivers-to-cross/history/why-was-cotton-king/ http://www.pbs.org/wnet/african-americans-many-rivers-to-cro...
xHopen 10y ago
The whole thing is so absurd that sometimes I wonder whether this is a computer simulation or not.