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Those are really great points you brought up. They went to the back of my head after all these years. I think they dropped Hello altogether. Extension signing

by hashhar 10y ago

Those are really great points you brought up. They went to the back of my head after all these years. I think they dropped Hello altogether. Extension signing is not forced though, can be toggled from about:config. In my opinion WebExtensions is a last ditch attempt to gain users and devs. If FF abandons XUL, WebExtensions will be the ONLY STANDARD way to write extensions. But in their defense there are active discussions about adding new APIs to enable more powerful integrations. DRM is off by default on fresh installs, AFAIK and is user toggleable in Preferences unlike being hardcoded in Chrome and Edge.

cpeterso 10y ago
Firefox no longer includes Hello. Hello only used standard WebRTC APIs, so anyone could create a comparable service as a regular website, such as Talky.io. Extension signing can be disabled in about:config, but I think the pref ("xpinstall.signatures.required") only works in the Firefox Nightly and Developer Edition channels. EME DRM is enabled by default in Firefox, but it won't work until the DRM blob (Google's Widevine CDM DLL) is automatically downloaded about one minute after Firefox launches. Here are instructions for disabling EME DRM and uninstalling the Widevine CDM: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/enable-drm https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/enable-drm
Dylan16807 10y ago
> Extension signing is not forced though, can be toggled from about:config. On the non-beta version? It's not supposed to be toggleable.
superkuh 10y ago
> Extension signing is not forced though, can be toggled from about:config. Unfortunately that is no longer true. Their argument was that users could be tricked to disable it, or run extensions that disable it. So to cater to the lowest common denominator user they completely removed the option for all users of Firefox. The alternatives are the non-Firefox (unbranded) Firefox builds or using an alpha version of Firefox (developer version).
- hashhar 10y ago
  Thanks for the information. I've been running only Nightly for over a year now and hence my misinformation. That logic does seem sound though but would be better implemented if any change to any preference that's not visible in the Preferences section raised a notification about it. I think I'll add this to Bugzilla.

by hashhar 10y ago

cpeterso 10y ago

Firefox no longer includes Hello. Hello only used standard WebRTC APIs, so anyone could create a comparable service as a regular website, such as Talky.io. Extension signing can be disabled in about:config, but I think the pref ("xpinstall.signatures.required") only works in the Firefox Nightly and Developer Edition channels. EME DRM is enabled by default in Firefox, but it won't work until the DRM blob (Google's Widevine CDM DLL) is automatically downloaded about one minute after Firefox launches. Here are instructions for disabling EME DRM and uninstalling the Widevine CDM: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/enable-drm https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/enable-drm

Dylan16807 10y ago

> Extension signing is not forced though, can be toggled from about:config. On the non-beta version? It's not supposed to be toggleable.

superkuh 10y ago

> Extension signing is not forced though, can be toggled from about:config. Unfortunately that is no longer true. Their argument was that users could be tricked to disable it, or run extensions that disable it. So to cater to the lowest common denominator user they completely removed the option for all users of Firefox. The alternatives are the non-Firefox (unbranded) Firefox builds or using an alpha version of Firefox (developer version).

hashhar 10y ago
Thanks for the information. I've been running only Nightly for over a year now and hence my misinformation. That logic does seem sound though but would be better implemented if any change to any preference that's not visible in the Preferences section raised a notification about it. I think I'll add this to Bugzilla.