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Instead of inflicting PTSD on content moderators, why not give the job to someone who actually wants to see this type of content? They must exist, otherwise the

Instead of inflicting PTSD on content moderators, why not give the job to someone who actually wants to see this type of content? They must exist, otherwise the content wouldn't spread in the first place. And/or crowdsource it so that more people are spending less time doing it? Viewing a little bit of this content is probably less traumatic than viewing it for 40 hours a week. Of course I realize it'd probably be a regulatory minefield, a thorny area morally, and any specific plan would likely draw critics. But it seems a lot better to me than scarring people for life with a full time barrage of things that repulse them. For instance, why not offer convicted pedophiles jobs which involve screening out child porn? That would save an innocent person from the trauma involved and it might even allow the pedophile to feel like he was redeeming himself to some degree by saving others from viewing that material. From my understanding many people with that fetish feel a lot of remorse about it and they're not exactly trying to get other people into it.

77pt77 10y ago
>For instance, why not offer convicted pedophiles jobs which involve screening out child porn? That would save an innocent person from the trauma involved and it might even allow the pedophile to feel like he was redeeming himself to some degree by saving others from viewing that material. Or just allow the pedophile to indulge in his paraphilia. I'm really not comfortable with this...
- jessaustin 10y ago
  At some point it will be possible to create very realistic CP without using children. Actually it might already be possible to do that. One would have thought that would solve most of the problem: create "artificial" CP with strict controls to ensure children are not involved, and let the weirdos watch as much as they want. (Admittedly, there would still probably be some super-weirdos who would be totally turned off by seeing the "Attestation of No Children Involved" message at the beginning of their CP...) But this comment seems to imply that there would be a problem with that? What is the harm in movies that harm no one?
  - pavel_lishin 10y ago
    Because it normalizes that behavior, and may push some to act it out in real life.
    - greggman 10y ago
      I'd be curious to know of that's true. Japan has it everywhere and by everywhere I mean porn manga in every convenience store in the country of which about 3% depicts acts with children. Does Japan have a higher rate of real incidents? I have no idea. If we take violent media normalizes violence afaik we find the opposite. Violent media is up, actual violence is down.
    - mrighele 10y ago
      Is this different from other forms of violence ? For example I have been shooting enemies in videogames for more than 20 years, yet I don't feel the urge to shoot anybody in real life.
  - halomru 10y ago
    This would effectively make child pornography "normal" (at least as normal as other extreme fetishes). Many people fear that that would lead to more pedophiles acting on their urges. Then again some think that readily available child porn could reduce cravings and reduce child molestation. I'm not sure if any actual studies exist that shed some light on that problem
    - nostrebored 10y ago
      Studies are all fairly conclusive: indulging in watching porn related to your paraphilia makes you want to act on that paraphilia. Suggesting otherwise is completely absurd.
      - jessaustin 10y ago
        Would you care to point us to these studies?
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Lukas_Skywalker 10y ago
If I recall correctly, one strategy for preventing relapses is to avoid children. Using convicted pedophiles might be counterproductive for some.
- village-idiot 10y ago
  It's like a recovering alcoholic taking a job at a liquor store. Not a good plan.
cannonpr 10y ago
So expose a mentally ill person to more triggers for his mental illness, for something which society despises and condemns him for ? I fail to see how this could ever be a good idea or moral. It's akin to saying lets make serial killers, soldiers. It would be a lot more sensible to have well payed and trained psychiatrists/psychologists do this job, trust me they are trained for, and exposed to far worse things than these moderators see.
exodust 10y ago
Your idea is bad, but needs only a slight modification to work. Instead of giving the moderation task to those who are sensitive to the material, find people who are not so sensitive. Like we can't all tolerate the sight of blood, but some people can deal with it. Doesn't mean they need to be Dexter, but they might have a high tolerance to blood and dead bodies, as medical professionals often do. Everyone is responsible for monitoring their own job and making sure it isn't affecting their life in a negative way. I think the moderator should have quit or raised the issue. Instead it's the usual story... keeps going and going even after the nightmares and anxiety... keeps working and working... depression, substance abuse or whatever. As usual, prevention is best. Change jobs.
- bittercynic 10y ago
  There are many people who struggled for a long time to find their current job, and feel like it would be impossible to find another now. It would be extra difficult to find the strength to hunt for jobs when your current one is giving you depression and PTSD.

77pt77 10y ago

>For instance, why not offer convicted pedophiles jobs which involve screening out child porn? That would save an innocent person from the trauma involved and it might even allow the pedophile to feel like he was redeeming himself to some degree by saving others from viewing that material. Or just allow the pedophile to indulge in his paraphilia. I'm really not comfortable with this...

jessaustin 10y ago
At some point it will be possible to create very realistic CP without using children. Actually it might already be possible to do that. One would have thought that would solve most of the problem: create "artificial" CP with strict controls to ensure children are not involved, and let the weirdos watch as much as they want. (Admittedly, there would still probably be some super-weirdos who would be totally turned off by seeing the "Attestation of No Children Involved" message at the beginning of their CP...) But this comment seems to imply that there would be a problem with that? What is the harm in movies that harm no one?
- pavel_lishin 10y ago
  Because it normalizes that behavior, and may push some to act it out in real life.
  - greggman 10y ago
    I'd be curious to know of that's true. Japan has it everywhere and by everywhere I mean porn manga in every convenience store in the country of which about 3% depicts acts with children. Does Japan have a higher rate of real incidents? I have no idea. If we take violent media normalizes violence afaik we find the opposite. Violent media is up, actual violence is down.
  - mrighele 10y ago
    Is this different from other forms of violence ? For example I have been shooting enemies in videogames for more than 20 years, yet I don't feel the urge to shoot anybody in real life.
- halomru 10y ago
  This would effectively make child pornography "normal" (at least as normal as other extreme fetishes). Many people fear that that would lead to more pedophiles acting on their urges. Then again some think that readily available child porn could reduce cravings and reduce child molestation. I'm not sure if any actual studies exist that shed some light on that problem
  - nostrebored 10y ago
    Studies are all fairly conclusive: indulging in watching porn related to your paraphilia makes you want to act on that paraphilia. Suggesting otherwise is completely absurd.
    - jessaustin 10y ago
      Would you care to point us to these studies?

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Lukas_Skywalker 10y ago

If I recall correctly, one strategy for preventing relapses is to avoid children. Using convicted pedophiles might be counterproductive for some.

village-idiot 10y ago
It's like a recovering alcoholic taking a job at a liquor store. Not a good plan.

cannonpr 10y ago

So expose a mentally ill person to more triggers for his mental illness, for something which society despises and condemns him for ? I fail to see how this could ever be a good idea or moral. It's akin to saying lets make serial killers, soldiers. It would be a lot more sensible to have well payed and trained psychiatrists/psychologists do this job, trust me they are trained for, and exposed to far worse things than these moderators see.

exodust 10y ago

Your idea is bad, but needs only a slight modification to work. Instead of giving the moderation task to those who are sensitive to the material, find people who are not so sensitive. Like we can't all tolerate the sight of blood, but some people can deal with it. Doesn't mean they need to be Dexter, but they might have a high tolerance to blood and dead bodies, as medical professionals often do. Everyone is responsible for monitoring their own job and making sure it isn't affecting their life in a negative way. I think the moderator should have quit or raised the issue. Instead it's the usual story... keeps going and going even after the nightmares and anxiety... keeps working and working... depression, substance abuse or whatever. As usual, prevention is best. Change jobs.

bittercynic 10y ago
There are many people who struggled for a long time to find their current job, and feel like it would be impossible to find another now. It would be extra difficult to find the strength to hunt for jobs when your current one is giving you depression and PTSD.