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I think you are overstating it. If it were not Trump, this would not be top story on HN.

by funkju 10y ago

mhneu 10y ago
If the Trump administration wasn't making people think about authoritarianism with the totality of their actions and words, yes it might not be. https://storify.com/AndrewHickey/lusztig-arendt-and-trump https://storify.com/AndrewHickey/lusztig-arendt-and-trump
seanmcdirmid 10y ago
It totally would be, it could be Mr. Rogers and it would still be the top story. Your tech employee with a green card, and hence a global tax obligation, is no longer allowed in the country? That is really just messed up. And as you know in our industry, a lot of our coworkers are on these visas. The only thing is, a sane president would never have done that. They might have banned new refugees or new visas from those countries, but preventing the entry of current visa holders...nope. If it were not Trump, this story wouldn't even exist.
geofft 10y ago
This is just provably untrue. Take a look at the top stories on HN from, say, June 2013, in the wake of the Snowden leaks: http://www.daemonology.net/hn-daily/2013-06.html http://www.daemonology.net/hn-daily/2013-06.html A huge number of stories on the front page were about civil liberties / US politics, with titles like - CIA Agents Were Embedded With NYPD And Had “No Limits” - U.S. Government Surveillance: Bad for Silicon Valley, Bad for World Democracy - U.S. bugged EU offices, computer networks - Memories of Stasi color Germans’ view of U.S. surveillance programs - The Criminal N.S.A. - WikiLeaks Volunteer Was a Paid Informant for the FBI - SSL: Intercepted today, decrypted tomorrow - Two Senators Say the NSA Is Still Feeding Us False Information When Obama threatens the ability of tech to get things done, his politics end up on HN. When Trump threatens the ability of tech to get things done, his politics end up on HN.
mikeash 10y ago
Tech companies tend to hire a lot of foreign workers. A lot of those foreign workers are suddenly being screwed, and the ability for American companies to hire such people has just taken a big hit. It's quite relevant here.
- canthonytucci 10y ago
  I think Trump supporters will see this as a welcome side effect. My assumption is that they would see companies being forced/incentivized to employ US citizens over imported workers as a positive, even if it meant that innovation/tech profits would be inhibited.
  - mikeash 10y ago
    I'm sure you're right. Still relevant if so!

I think you are overstating it. If it were not Trump, this would not be top story on HN.

by funkju 10y ago

I think you are overstating it. If it were not Trump, this would not be top story on HN.

mhneu 10y ago

If the Trump administration wasn't making people think about authoritarianism with the totality of their actions and words, yes it might not be. https://storify.com/AndrewHickey/lusztig-arendt-and-trump https://storify.com/AndrewHickey/lusztig-arendt-and-trump

seanmcdirmid 10y ago

It totally would be, it could be Mr. Rogers and it would still be the top story. Your tech employee with a green card, and hence a global tax obligation, is no longer allowed in the country? That is really just messed up. And as you know in our industry, a lot of our coworkers are on these visas. The only thing is, a sane president would never have done that. They might have banned new refugees or new visas from those countries, but preventing the entry of current visa holders...nope. If it were not Trump, this story wouldn't even exist.

geofft 10y ago

This is just provably untrue. Take a look at the top stories on HN from, say, June 2013, in the wake of the Snowden leaks: http://www.daemonology.net/hn-daily/2013-06.html http://www.daemonology.net/hn-daily/2013-06.html A huge number of stories on the front page were about civil liberties / US politics, with titles like - CIA Agents Were Embedded With NYPD And Had “No Limits” - U.S. Government Surveillance: Bad for Silicon Valley, Bad for World Democracy - U.S. bugged EU offices, computer networks - Memories of Stasi color Germans’ view of U.S. surveillance programs - The Criminal N.S.A. - WikiLeaks Volunteer Was a Paid Informant for the FBI - SSL: Intercepted today, decrypted tomorrow - Two Senators Say the NSA Is Still Feeding Us False Information When Obama threatens the ability of tech to get things done, his politics end up on HN. When Trump threatens the ability of tech to get things done, his politics end up on HN.

mikeash 10y ago

Tech companies tend to hire a lot of foreign workers. A lot of those foreign workers are suddenly being screwed, and the ability for American companies to hire such people has just taken a big hit. It's quite relevant here.

canthonytucci 10y ago
I think Trump supporters will see this as a welcome side effect. My assumption is that they would see companies being forced/incentivized to employ US citizens over imported workers as a positive, even if it meant that innovation/tech profits would be inhibited.
- mikeash 10y ago
  I'm sure you're right. Still relevant if so!