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I think the title of this post is wrong. Here's another post - http://www.theverge.com/2017/1/28/14427086/federal-court-halts-trumps-immigration-ban http://www.

I think the title of this post is wrong. Here's another post - http://www.theverge.com/2017/1/28/14427086/federal-court-halts-trumps-immigration-ban http://www.theverge.com/2017/1/28/14427086/federal-court-hal... - that states that "The court specifically ruled on Darweesh and Alshawi’s petition; the ACLU will have to include all other similarly-affected immigrants as part of a class action to have it apply more broadly."

anarazel 10y ago
I think it's fairly unclear for the moment. Some ACLU affiliated account twittered "stay is national": https://twitter.com/dale_e_ho/status/825521534383095809 https://twitter.com/dale_e_ho/status/825521534383095809
- MBCook 10y ago
  I think that may have meant it applied to all airports as opposed to just the New York airports, but it could still only apply to the people who have already been held and not future travelers.
- sveiss 10y ago
  The wording of the ruling looks like it applies nationally to me: "WHEREFORE, IT IS HEREBY ORDERED that the respondents, their officers, agents, servants, employees, attorneys, and all members and persons acting in concert or participation with than, from the date of this Order, are ENJOINED AND RESTRAINED from, in any manner or by any means, removing individuals with refugee applications approved by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services as part of the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program, holders of valid immigrant and non-immigrant visas, and other individuals from Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Somalia, and Yemen legally authorized to enter the United States."
geofft 10y ago
This is incorrect - the government tried to remove the ACLU's and NILC's standing by allowing Darweesh and Alshawi (the representative plaintiffs) through, but they prevailed in getting a stay on behalf of the class. It looks like The Verge has fixed the sentence to "The court specifically ruled on Darweesh and Alshawi’s petition; other similarly-situated people being detained and those in transit are covered by the ruling, which is only temporary." It is true that this doesn't stay the entire executive order. It just responds to the habeas-corpus bits for those who already made it to the US (including someone who was being placed on a plane leaving the US as the order was being made, and hopefully was allowed to get back off that plane).

anarazel 10y ago

I think it's fairly unclear for the moment. Some ACLU affiliated account twittered "stay is national": https://twitter.com/dale_e_ho/status/825521534383095809 https://twitter.com/dale_e_ho/status/825521534383095809

MBCook 10y ago
I think that may have meant it applied to all airports as opposed to just the New York airports, but it could still only apply to the people who have already been held and not future travelers.
sveiss 10y ago
The wording of the ruling looks like it applies nationally to me: "WHEREFORE, IT IS HEREBY ORDERED that the respondents, their officers, agents, servants, employees, attorneys, and all members and persons acting in concert or participation with than, from the date of this Order, are ENJOINED AND RESTRAINED from, in any manner or by any means, removing individuals with refugee applications approved by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services as part of the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program, holders of valid immigrant and non-immigrant visas, and other individuals from Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Somalia, and Yemen legally authorized to enter the United States."

geofft 10y ago

This is incorrect - the government tried to remove the ACLU's and NILC's standing by allowing Darweesh and Alshawi (the representative plaintiffs) through, but they prevailed in getting a stay on behalf of the class. It looks like The Verge has fixed the sentence to "The court specifically ruled on Darweesh and Alshawi’s petition; other similarly-situated people being detained and those in transit are covered by the ruling, which is only temporary." It is true that this doesn't stay the entire executive order. It just responds to the habeas-corpus bits for those who already made it to the US (including someone who was being placed on a plane leaving the US as the order was being made, and hopefully was allowed to get back off that plane).