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How does that make any sense? At best, this is stupid posturing--at worst, it's just plain stupid. How would a boycott lead to Trump's removal? How would cutti

How does that make any sense? At best, this is stupid posturing--at worst, it's just plain stupid. How would a boycott lead to Trump's removal? How would cutting yourself off from the American economy hurt Trump?

maguirre 10y ago
I think logic would be something like the following: Boycotting US goods would affect one of the corner stones of Trump's campaign of bringing back jobs/improving US economy. A poor economy would lead people to eventually tire of Trump antics and his methods eventually leading to voting him ( and possibly those associated with him) out office
- mordant 10y ago
  The United States has a large enough internal economy and enough natural resources that it would do just fine without a single penny of import or export of goods or services taking place. Specific oxes would be gored, but it would be a wash, overall.
  - dragonwriter 10y ago
    No, it wouldn't. Comparstive advantage (and thus, gains in experienced utility from trade) is real.
thecolorblue 10y ago
When people don't visit the US they don't spend their money in the US either.
- mordant 10y ago
  And the United States would do just find without their pennies nor without the grace of their presence. The categories of people who're affected by the travel ban tend to cost the United States money in terms of public assistance, et. al. My guess is that the net economic impact - especially when considering the cost of the crimes that demographic will no longer be able to commit within the United States - will be positive.
NotSammyHagar 10y ago
Trump is basically an insanely narcistic person who got the presidency, and it is a stress test of our instutions to see how well they resist illegal behavior. It's too soon to see how well we react. My current thinking is we need to change the constitution to reduce the power of the president. It has not been enough of a problem because we've only had a few in the last 100 years who were bat shit insane.
- mordant 10y ago
  >Trump is basically an insanely narcistic person who got the presidency, and it is a stress test of our instutions to see how well they resist illegal behavior. I'd be grateful if you could cite the specific illegal - i.e., against specific sections of the US Code - actions President Trump has taken since he's been in office. Chapter and verse, please. Keep in mind that just because you don't like what he's doing doesn't make it illegal.
cyberferret 10y ago
Because it would (hopefully) prove to Trump's supporters that his policies are in fact going to be hurting America's economy, and quite the opposite of "Making America Great Again". Once local shopkeepers, business owners and workers realise that the 'brain drain' caused by these policies, as well as the lack of tourists spending dollars in their establishments etc. is causing actual pain to their hip pockets, then they may realise that being a part of the global community may be a good thing, and the isolationist policies not so much. By the same token, I would ask you how US imposed economic sanctions on other countries are expected to work to depose the leader of those said countries? Sanctions usually affect the general population who usually have nothing to do with their leader's actions. We end up with children and other innocents dying from starvation or disease while the regime continues unabated. The different with the US is that (hopefully), the people can have sway over the President's actions, and take action themselves to effect change.

maguirre 10y ago

I think logic would be something like the following: Boycotting US goods would affect one of the corner stones of Trump's campaign of bringing back jobs/improving US economy. A poor economy would lead people to eventually tire of Trump antics and his methods eventually leading to voting him ( and possibly those associated with him) out office

mordant 10y ago
The United States has a large enough internal economy and enough natural resources that it would do just fine without a single penny of import or export of goods or services taking place. Specific oxes would be gored, but it would be a wash, overall.
- dragonwriter 10y ago
  No, it wouldn't. Comparstive advantage (and thus, gains in experienced utility from trade) is real.

thecolorblue 10y ago

When people don't visit the US they don't spend their money in the US either.

mordant 10y ago
And the United States would do just find without their pennies nor without the grace of their presence. The categories of people who're affected by the travel ban tend to cost the United States money in terms of public assistance, et. al. My guess is that the net economic impact - especially when considering the cost of the crimes that demographic will no longer be able to commit within the United States - will be positive.

NotSammyHagar 10y ago

Trump is basically an insanely narcistic person who got the presidency, and it is a stress test of our instutions to see how well they resist illegal behavior. It's too soon to see how well we react. My current thinking is we need to change the constitution to reduce the power of the president. It has not been enough of a problem because we've only had a few in the last 100 years who were bat shit insane.

mordant 10y ago
>Trump is basically an insanely narcistic person who got the presidency, and it is a stress test of our instutions to see how well they resist illegal behavior. I'd be grateful if you could cite the specific illegal - i.e., against specific sections of the US Code - actions President Trump has taken since he's been in office. Chapter and verse, please. Keep in mind that just because you don't like what he's doing doesn't make it illegal.

cyberferret 10y ago

Because it would (hopefully) prove to Trump's supporters that his policies are in fact going to be hurting America's economy, and quite the opposite of "Making America Great Again". Once local shopkeepers, business owners and workers realise that the 'brain drain' caused by these policies, as well as the lack of tourists spending dollars in their establishments etc. is causing actual pain to their hip pockets, then they may realise that being a part of the global community may be a good thing, and the isolationist policies not so much. By the same token, I would ask you how US imposed economic sanctions on other countries are expected to work to depose the leader of those said countries? Sanctions usually affect the general population who usually have nothing to do with their leader's actions. We end up with children and other innocents dying from starvation or disease while the regime continues unabated. The different with the US is that (hopefully), the people can have sway over the President's actions, and take action themselves to effect change.