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It makes me angry that a company that appears to go against my ideals is so popular and successful, because I believe my ideals are better. It's not in any way

by Osmose 16y ago

It makes me angry that a company that appears to go against my ideals is so popular and successful, because I believe my ideals are better. It's not in any way a good argument, but I might as well admit it rather than claiming otherwise.

jballanc 16y ago
So I presume you have started a company based around your ideals? I think people don't realize that there is no magic fairy dust at 1 Infinite Loop. Apple's success is really quite easy to reproduce. It only takes one thing: guts!
- glhaynes 16y ago
  Well... and talent and taste and opportunity.
  - Kilimanjaro 16y ago
    Taste, above all.
    - IdeaHamster 16y ago
      Taste is nothing without the balls to follow through even when everyone thinks you're crazy.
- potatolicious 16y ago
  > "Apple's success is really quite easy to reproduce." I doubt this... They're not unbeatable, but let's be honest, a lot of money has been thrown at the "kill Apple" by some very large players with a lot of money and experience. No one has done it yet - I'm not convinced it's really simply a matter of determination.
  - froo 16y ago
    I really think the reason why people haven't done it is they're trying to compete on Apple's terms. Palm trying to out-iPhone the iPhone, Microsoft trying to out-iPod the iPod, both of which weren't successful on the same level. You either need to transcend their technology (which is difficult given the positive brand experience that Apple has) or compete in different fields to truly beat them. This just hasn't happened yet.
    - josefresco 16y ago
      Or they could mount a full-frontal assault like Google is and attack the iPhone from every angle with an open platform. Palm was a small fish, Google, not so much.
  - jimbokun 16y ago
    "Kill Apple" is a poor goal. One of the first things Steve Jobs said upon returning to Apple was "We have to let go of the notion that for Apple to win, Microsoft has to lose." http://news.cnet.com/2100-1001-202143.html http://news.cnet.com/2100-1001-202143.html Instead, try to make things people want.
    - jarek 16y ago
      > Instead, try to make things people want. Because, considering human nature, that is a much better defined and more static goal than "kill Apple."
      - jballanc 16y ago
        Are a human? Do you work on a product that you would want to buy from yourself? Seems like a pretty easy target if you ask me... (hint: you're not as unique as you think, and that's a good thing!)
    - crosvenir 16y ago
      A very interesting quote, seeing as I seem to always be told what I want and if I don't then buy/develop for something else.
maxharris 16y ago
The true in theory is the successful in practice. Have you considered that your ideals could be wrong?

by Osmose 16y ago

jballanc 16y ago

So I presume you have started a company based around your ideals? I think people don't realize that there is no magic fairy dust at 1 Infinite Loop. Apple's success is really quite easy to reproduce. It only takes one thing: guts!

glhaynes 16y ago
Well... and talent and taste and opportunity.
- Kilimanjaro 16y ago
  Taste, above all.
  - IdeaHamster 16y ago
    Taste is nothing without the balls to follow through even when everyone thinks you're crazy.
potatolicious 16y ago
> "Apple's success is really quite easy to reproduce." I doubt this... They're not unbeatable, but let's be honest, a lot of money has been thrown at the "kill Apple" by some very large players with a lot of money and experience. No one has done it yet - I'm not convinced it's really simply a matter of determination.
- froo 16y ago
  I really think the reason why people haven't done it is they're trying to compete on Apple's terms. Palm trying to out-iPhone the iPhone, Microsoft trying to out-iPod the iPod, both of which weren't successful on the same level. You either need to transcend their technology (which is difficult given the positive brand experience that Apple has) or compete in different fields to truly beat them. This just hasn't happened yet.
  - josefresco 16y ago
    Or they could mount a full-frontal assault like Google is and attack the iPhone from every angle with an open platform. Palm was a small fish, Google, not so much.
- jimbokun 16y ago
  "Kill Apple" is a poor goal. One of the first things Steve Jobs said upon returning to Apple was "We have to let go of the notion that for Apple to win, Microsoft has to lose." http://news.cnet.com/2100-1001-202143.html http://news.cnet.com/2100-1001-202143.html Instead, try to make things people want.
  - jarek 16y ago
    > Instead, try to make things people want. Because, considering human nature, that is a much better defined and more static goal than "kill Apple."
    - jballanc 16y ago
      Are a human? Do you work on a product that you would want to buy from yourself? Seems like a pretty easy target if you ask me... (hint: you're not as unique as you think, and that's a good thing!)
  - crosvenir 16y ago
    A very interesting quote, seeing as I seem to always be told what I want and if I don't then buy/develop for something else.

maxharris 16y ago

The true in theory is the successful in practice. Have you considered that your ideals could be wrong?