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Delete your account

64 points by imartin2k 10y ago

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franciscop 10y ago
Well I just did it a few days back [1]. It is working great, I am closer and closer to release server [2] and working on my Japanese which got rustly. [1] https://medium.com/@fpresencia/i-am-not-superman-54b54e8ab491 https://medium.com/@fpresencia/i-am-not-superman-54b54e8ab49... [2] https://github.com/franciscop/server https://github.com/franciscop/server
- divbit 10y ago
  (Server) Looks cool. What is the intended benefit over something like express?
  - franciscop 10y ago
    Thank! In v1.0 most of the things that were deprecated from Express 4.0 [1] (and a couple more) work out of the box. On v1.1 you get websockets for free[2] as a router method and a plugin system that goes way beyond what is possible with express middleware so other integrations are possible (think about passport, aws' s3 and the likes). Truth be told, for the initial release I only expect 2 groups of people to truly benefit from this: those creating new projects on a regular basis and those getting started with Node.js. I've taught to some people how to get started with Node.js and since Express 4.0 it's been quite challenging so I expect this to really help. [1] http://expressjs.com/en/guide/migrating-4.html http://expressjs.com/en/guide/migrating-4.html [2] Not yet available (and wouldn't work on jsfiddle anyway): https://jsfiddle.net/franciscop/6ca5gzn7/ https://jsfiddle.net/franciscop/6ca5gzn7/
brunoluiz 10y ago
For developers is a bit harder, as sometimes a project requires the Facebook API and you only can use it if you have an account there. And what about the events and groups created there to organize meetings, manifestations etc?
- dvdhnt 10y ago
  Not to mention releases and announcements that industry folks release on twitter. For me, it's usually JS related, and I hope that js.org becomes the go-to resource that it has the potential to be.
  - brunoluiz 10y ago
    I guess that Twitter enables you to follow profiles through e-mail, while Facebook doesn't (walled garden). So, maybe you could live without Twitter.
Mc_Big_G 10y ago
Fuck that, don't silence yourself. There's no reason why you can't get involved in other ways as well.
- dwaltrip 10y ago
  It doesn't need to be framed as "silencing yourself". It could be framed as "withdrawing from the clusterfuck" or "preferring other mediums of information exchange".
thilmo 10y ago
>Volunteer to help immigrants assimilate I thought the idea of immigrants assimilating was considered "racist" nowadays. Perhaps Trump really has moved the Overton window a bit?
- rhizome 10y ago
  Would "feel welcome" make it better for you?
firepoet 10y ago
I found it ironic that the "Delete your account" post had a Facebook feed underneath it.
grabcocque 10y ago
It's kinda cute that he thinks that "marching" is where change happens. Marching is just a mildly evolved form of impotently virtue signalling on Twitter.
- ChrisLTD 10y ago
  Unless you're a celebrity, Tweeting for change is probably worse than pointless, but it can be cathartic. Meanwhile, protests have actually spurred change throughout history. See Gandhi, the Civil Rights movement, Tea Party protests, to name just a few.
- tasty_freeze 10y ago
  Virtue signalling is a valid idea, but it has become a way too easy way of dismissing things without proof, and acting superior at the same time. Just like invoking Dunning Kruger at the drop of a hat is in, so is labeling things virtue signalling. Getting on your twitter soapbox and expressing your opinion does sway people. Two years ago, people who would say, "The damn mexicans need to get the hell out of our country" was limited to a very limited, and marginalized, corner of the internet. Over the past two years, it became acceptable through twitter, and now it is a cornerstone platform of the Republican party. If twitter can have that effect, why do you think it can't have the opposite effect of making it known to your social circle that those ideas are not acceptable to you? Or are you saying that tweeting "Mexicans, get the hell out" is legitimate, but "I find those statements incompatible with my idea of being a US citizen" is not legitimate?
- deleted 10y ago
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orthoganol 10y ago
> Journalists need your technical expertise to secure their devices, set up secure drops, and understand the data coming out of the countless leaks that are sure to come. This strikes me as hypocrisy seeing as almost everyone, including the media, threw WikiLeaks under the bus last year.
- meritt 10y ago
  That is because WikiLeaks decided to become politically opportunistic with what they chose to leak and when they chose to leak it, instead of simply leaking everything immediately after receipt.
  - generic_user 10y ago
    It was the content that did the damage not the timing. There was a lot of unethical and illegal activity that was exposed. Those implicated are are not fit to hold office.
    - tasty_freeze 10y ago
      Yeah, the pizza parlor really blew the lid off if things, didn't it? Get real, timing had a LOT to do with it.
    - meritt 10y ago
      I agree with you that the content was absolutely damaging. The Podesta leaks began 1 hour after Trump's pussy-grabbing video was published, and continued every single day until November 9th. The timing was absolutely strategic and politically motivated. If you still think the timing wasn't relevant, I have a bridge to sell you.
    - jimbokun 10y ago
      If there was illegal activity, where are the indictments or court cases?
  - orthoganol 10y ago
    Is it because they were politically opportunistic, or because their leaks went against the media's politics? Without question Assange was against HRC and Obama. The latter kept him as a political prisoner for 6 years despite UN rulings, "War on Whistleblowers", etc., and the former had already made an appearance in Cablegate and no doubt was not going to let him walk free either. Even if there is a (legitimate) political motivation, facts and misdeeds are facts and misdeeds, and leakers should be protected regardless.
imchillyb 10y ago
> "Ignore their false produce and read real news from a real source you trust. Pay for media." Brought to you by the very people selling your data, infecting your computers with malvertisements, bowing to their corporate masters and shoveling you shill-dirt for breakfast lunch and dinner. Don't do ANY of that bullshit. Use the tools available to you. If you don't someone else will, and they probably already do. Don't go back to the way we were; it was horrid. Don't let the corporate hegemony rule you through news. They've been doing that for centuries. Fight back AGAINST THEM! You heard me. AGAINST THEM, not with them.
- lnrdgmz 10y ago
  > Brought to you by the very people selling your data, infecting your computers with malvertisements, bowing to their corporate masters and shoveling you shill-dirt for breakfast lunch and dinner. Buy a newspaper. Edit: Or a weekly periodical which employs fact-checkers.
generic_user 10y ago
> If you're running a startup delete your account and look up from your laptop. > If you're a VC cut ties from members of your class that actively destroy free speech and rant about the coming dystopia. This is just pants on fire hysteria. Its destructive to productive communities where it takes a lot of silent toil and concentration by a varied group of people to get anything done. Programming is not political activism. Neither is starting a technology company. Neither is starting an open source project. Software development is not exhibitionism. You can not have a few drinks and show up with a sign and snappy chant and build a database or compiler. You can not get a game engine working marching through the streets. All of these Social issues have nothing to do with programming or computer science. Its just a obnoxious divisive distraction by people who looking for followers.

64 points by imartin2k 10y ago

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Well I just did it a few days back [1]. It is working great, I am closer and closer to release server [2] and working on my Japanese which got rustly. [1] https://medium.com/@fpresencia/i-am-not-superman-54b54e8ab491 https://medium.com/@fpresencia/i-am-not-superman-54b54e8ab49... [2] https://github.com/franciscop/server https://github.com/franciscop/server

divbit 10y ago
(Server) Looks cool. What is the intended benefit over something like express?
- franciscop 10y ago
  Thank! In v1.0 most of the things that were deprecated from Express 4.0 [1] (and a couple more) work out of the box. On v1.1 you get websockets for free[2] as a router method and a plugin system that goes way beyond what is possible with express middleware so other integrations are possible (think about passport, aws' s3 and the likes). Truth be told, for the initial release I only expect 2 groups of people to truly benefit from this: those creating new projects on a regular basis and those getting started with Node.js. I've taught to some people how to get started with Node.js and since Express 4.0 it's been quite challenging so I expect this to really help. [1] http://expressjs.com/en/guide/migrating-4.html http://expressjs.com/en/guide/migrating-4.html [2] Not yet available (and wouldn't work on jsfiddle anyway): https://jsfiddle.net/franciscop/6ca5gzn7/ https://jsfiddle.net/franciscop/6ca5gzn7/

brunoluiz 10y ago

For developers is a bit harder, as sometimes a project requires the Facebook API and you only can use it if you have an account there. And what about the events and groups created there to organize meetings, manifestations etc?

dvdhnt 10y ago
Not to mention releases and announcements that industry folks release on twitter. For me, it's usually JS related, and I hope that js.org becomes the go-to resource that it has the potential to be.
- brunoluiz 10y ago
  I guess that Twitter enables you to follow profiles through e-mail, while Facebook doesn't (walled garden). So, maybe you could live without Twitter.

Mc_Big_G 10y ago

Fuck that, don't silence yourself. There's no reason why you can't get involved in other ways as well.

dwaltrip 10y ago
It doesn't need to be framed as "silencing yourself". It could be framed as "withdrawing from the clusterfuck" or "preferring other mediums of information exchange".

thilmo 10y ago

>Volunteer to help immigrants assimilate I thought the idea of immigrants assimilating was considered "racist" nowadays. Perhaps Trump really has moved the Overton window a bit?

rhizome 10y ago
Would "feel welcome" make it better for you?

firepoet 10y ago

I found it ironic that the "Delete your account" post had a Facebook feed underneath it.

grabcocque 10y ago

It's kinda cute that he thinks that "marching" is where change happens. Marching is just a mildly evolved form of impotently virtue signalling on Twitter.

ChrisLTD 10y ago
Unless you're a celebrity, Tweeting for change is probably worse than pointless, but it can be cathartic. Meanwhile, protests have actually spurred change throughout history. See Gandhi, the Civil Rights movement, Tea Party protests, to name just a few.
tasty_freeze 10y ago
Virtue signalling is a valid idea, but it has become a way too easy way of dismissing things without proof, and acting superior at the same time. Just like invoking Dunning Kruger at the drop of a hat is in, so is labeling things virtue signalling. Getting on your twitter soapbox and expressing your opinion does sway people. Two years ago, people who would say, "The damn mexicans need to get the hell out of our country" was limited to a very limited, and marginalized, corner of the internet. Over the past two years, it became acceptable through twitter, and now it is a cornerstone platform of the Republican party. If twitter can have that effect, why do you think it can't have the opposite effect of making it known to your social circle that those ideas are not acceptable to you? Or are you saying that tweeting "Mexicans, get the hell out" is legitimate, but "I find those statements incompatible with my idea of being a US citizen" is not legitimate?
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orthoganol 10y ago

> Journalists need your technical expertise to secure their devices, set up secure drops, and understand the data coming out of the countless leaks that are sure to come. This strikes me as hypocrisy seeing as almost everyone, including the media, threw WikiLeaks under the bus last year.

meritt 10y ago
That is because WikiLeaks decided to become politically opportunistic with what they chose to leak and when they chose to leak it, instead of simply leaking everything immediately after receipt.
- generic_user 10y ago
  It was the content that did the damage not the timing. There was a lot of unethical and illegal activity that was exposed. Those implicated are are not fit to hold office.
  - tasty_freeze 10y ago
    Yeah, the pizza parlor really blew the lid off if things, didn't it? Get real, timing had a LOT to do with it.
  - meritt 10y ago
    I agree with you that the content was absolutely damaging. The Podesta leaks began 1 hour after Trump's pussy-grabbing video was published, and continued every single day until November 9th. The timing was absolutely strategic and politically motivated. If you still think the timing wasn't relevant, I have a bridge to sell you.
  - jimbokun 10y ago
    If there was illegal activity, where are the indictments or court cases?
- orthoganol 10y ago
  Is it because they were politically opportunistic, or because their leaks went against the media's politics? Without question Assange was against HRC and Obama. The latter kept him as a political prisoner for 6 years despite UN rulings, "War on Whistleblowers", etc., and the former had already made an appearance in Cablegate and no doubt was not going to let him walk free either. Even if there is a (legitimate) political motivation, facts and misdeeds are facts and misdeeds, and leakers should be protected regardless.

imchillyb 10y ago

> "Ignore their false produce and read real news from a real source you trust. Pay for media." Brought to you by the very people selling your data, infecting your computers with malvertisements, bowing to their corporate masters and shoveling you shill-dirt for breakfast lunch and dinner. Don't do ANY of that bullshit. Use the tools available to you. If you don't someone else will, and they probably already do. Don't go back to the way we were; it was horrid. Don't let the corporate hegemony rule you through news. They've been doing that for centuries. Fight back AGAINST THEM! You heard me. AGAINST THEM, not with them.

lnrdgmz 10y ago
> Brought to you by the very people selling your data, infecting your computers with malvertisements, bowing to their corporate masters and shoveling you shill-dirt for breakfast lunch and dinner. Buy a newspaper. Edit: Or a weekly periodical which employs fact-checkers.

generic_user 10y ago

> If you're running a startup delete your account and look up from your laptop. > If you're a VC cut ties from members of your class that actively destroy free speech and rant about the coming dystopia. This is just pants on fire hysteria. Its destructive to productive communities where it takes a lot of silent toil and concentration by a varied group of people to get anything done. Programming is not political activism. Neither is starting a technology company. Neither is starting an open source project. Software development is not exhibitionism. You can not have a few drinks and show up with a sign and snappy chant and build a database or compiler. You can not get a game engine working marching through the streets. All of these Social issues have nothing to do with programming or computer science. Its just a obnoxious divisive distraction by people who looking for followers.