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I'm the CEO and cofounder of Glowforge - we're so saddened by this tragedy. Our product was not involved, but that doesn't make us feel any better about this l

I'm the CEO and cofounder of Glowforge - we're so saddened by this tragedy. Our product was not involved, but that doesn't make us feel any better about this loss. If you use a laser, ours or anyone else's, please go back right now and re-read the safety instructions. Accidents like this should never happen. My heart breaks for those affected by this.

Animats 10y ago
OK, it's good to know it wasn't yours. Thanks. It would be appropriate to put a CO detector in your units before somebody does that with one of yours. That definitely needs to be in the "filtered" units that are supposed to operate with no ventilation.
- nickrivadeneira 10y ago
  Might be worth editing your original comment to remove the suggestion that it's a Glowforge, just to avoid unnecessarily associating a specific company that wasn't involved in this tragedy.
  - nrjdhsbsid 10y ago
    Lol pr damage control much? Even if it wasn't a glowforge poster points out a huge danger with the "filtered units"
    - somedangedname 10y ago
      Yep, looks like PR. nickrivadeneira's account is 4.5 years old and has commented 4 whole times.
    - rosser 10y ago
      Then say something like "means things like the Glowforge", instead of "probably means a Glowforge". One denotes membership in a certain class, providing an example. The other unambiguously suggests the example is the culprit. And as other posts in other threads suggest, the printer, whichever brand, being the source of the CO poisoning isn't even certain. I don't work for Glowforge, and you may note my other comment in this thread, which could be taken as critical, so I'm not biased or trying to spin "damage control". And yet, I too think the thread's root's language could be more precise.
      - nrjdhsbsid 10y ago
        I mean... Nick's account is pretty old but has very few comments. Of the 5 or so comments one of them mentioned a marketing podcast. I don't think it's a stretch by any means to think the account is used by someone in the glowforge marketing Dept.
        DanBC 10y ago
        You're not supposed to accuse people in threads of astroturfing or shilling. If you have evidence it's best to email it to the mods for them to take action.
    - noobermin 10y ago
      Even if it is damage control, it's a legitimate request if any. Their brand could be damaged by mere speculation, especially in this case where it involves a founder who seems safety conscious and most likely an ally for people who care for user safety.
      - nrjdhsbsid 10y ago
        This feels like the aftermath of the exploding hoverboards. Some products are safe but the standards are so inconsistent that the reputation of anyone building them will suffer equally. Personally I hope the cause wasn't a laser cutter, this could really hurt a young and fragile and mostly innocious industry :(
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agumonkey 10y ago
Are there CO detectors to buy to react before it's too late ?
- justincormack 10y ago
  Many smoke alarms also measure CO now.
  - DonRico 10y ago
    Even if there were smokealarms with CO dedection it's really bad practice. Carbon monoxide dedectors need to be installed on to walls 100-150cm from the floor. In the bedroom I would recommend the height of bed. The reason for all that is the fact that CO molar mass is really similar to air molar mass AKA "that shit will reach the sealing when you're long dead".
    - pixelbill 10y ago
      Sorry, but what are you talking about? Yes, CO is similar to air's molar mass (it's actually slightly lower), meaning it will diffuse evenly through the vertical space in the room. The concentrations at the ceiling will be the same as the concentrations on the floor. Stop spreading misinformation.
      - agumonkey 10y ago
        But if sources are at human head level, by the time it reaches the ceiling, you already inhaled a fair amount of CO ? what did I get wrong ?
        pixelbill 10y ago
        Nope. Diffusion of gasses in the air is an extremely rapid process. In a minute the concentration would be the same throughout the room.
        10y ago

Animats 10y ago

OK, it's good to know it wasn't yours. Thanks. It would be appropriate to put a CO detector in your units before somebody does that with one of yours. That definitely needs to be in the "filtered" units that are supposed to operate with no ventilation.

nickrivadeneira 10y ago
Might be worth editing your original comment to remove the suggestion that it's a Glowforge, just to avoid unnecessarily associating a specific company that wasn't involved in this tragedy.
- nrjdhsbsid 10y ago
  Lol pr damage control much? Even if it wasn't a glowforge poster points out a huge danger with the "filtered units"
  - somedangedname 10y ago
    Yep, looks like PR. nickrivadeneira's account is 4.5 years old and has commented 4 whole times.
  - rosser 10y ago
    Then say something like "means things like the Glowforge", instead of "probably means a Glowforge". One denotes membership in a certain class, providing an example. The other unambiguously suggests the example is the culprit. And as other posts in other threads suggest, the printer, whichever brand, being the source of the CO poisoning isn't even certain. I don't work for Glowforge, and you may note my other comment in this thread, which could be taken as critical, so I'm not biased or trying to spin "damage control". And yet, I too think the thread's root's language could be more precise.
    - nrjdhsbsid 10y ago
      I mean... Nick's account is pretty old but has very few comments. Of the 5 or so comments one of them mentioned a marketing podcast. I don't think it's a stretch by any means to think the account is used by someone in the glowforge marketing Dept.
      - DanBC 10y ago
        You're not supposed to accuse people in threads of astroturfing or shilling. If you have evidence it's best to email it to the mods for them to take action.
  - noobermin 10y ago
    Even if it is damage control, it's a legitimate request if any. Their brand could be damaged by mere speculation, especially in this case where it involves a founder who seems safety conscious and most likely an ally for people who care for user safety.
    - nrjdhsbsid 10y ago
      This feels like the aftermath of the exploding hoverboards. Some products are safe but the standards are so inconsistent that the reputation of anyone building them will suffer equally. Personally I hope the cause wasn't a laser cutter, this could really hurt a young and fragile and mostly innocious industry :(
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agumonkey 10y ago

Are there CO detectors to buy to react before it's too late ?

justincormack 10y ago
Many smoke alarms also measure CO now.
- DonRico 10y ago
  Even if there were smokealarms with CO dedection it's really bad practice. Carbon monoxide dedectors need to be installed on to walls 100-150cm from the floor. In the bedroom I would recommend the height of bed. The reason for all that is the fact that CO molar mass is really similar to air molar mass AKA "that shit will reach the sealing when you're long dead".
  - pixelbill 10y ago
    Sorry, but what are you talking about? Yes, CO is similar to air's molar mass (it's actually slightly lower), meaning it will diffuse evenly through the vertical space in the room. The concentrations at the ceiling will be the same as the concentrations on the floor. Stop spreading misinformation.
    - agumonkey 10y ago
      But if sources are at human head level, by the time it reaches the ceiling, you already inhaled a fair amount of CO ? what did I get wrong ?
      - pixelbill 10y ago
        Nope. Diffusion of gasses in the air is an extremely rapid process. In a minute the concentration would be the same throughout the room.
        10y ago