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I seriously doubt the intention of people behind this order has anything to do with security and safety of US citizens. In fact from my point of view, looking a
by sasanrose 10y ago
I seriously doubt the intention of people behind this order has anything to do with security and safety of US citizens. In fact from my point of view, looking at the list of the countries which are banned you can see they could not care less about US citizens. For instance, for crying out load, 15 out of 19 hijackers involved in 9/11 were Saudi citizens. But why Saudi Arabia is not in the list? This is just a game of politics.
- XorNot 10y agoNo country on that list has had a national commit an act of terror on US soil since 1975 or so. Nor do any of them have Trump brand hotels in them.
- yokisan 10y ago> No country on that list has had a national commit an act of terror on US soil since 1975 or so. See? It's working already!
- haikuginger 10y agoHe who controls the past controls the future. He who controls the present controls the past.
- dghf 10y agoAnd the other four were from Egypt, Lebanon and the UAE, also not on the list. Yet the EO starts by using the September 11 attacks as an example of the consequences of not vetting foreign nationals thoroughly.
- gotchange 10y agoI am not a Trump fan. On the contrary, I'm more one of his biggest opponents of him and ALL what he stands for but the list of countries banned from entering the US and referenced in the text in his EO -- 8 U.S.C. 1187(a)(12)--[0] is compiled by the SoS before him coming in office. He's just riding on the coattails of former admins to expand the scope of the restrictions and sanctions imposed by them. [0] https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1187 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1187
- denzil_correa 10y agoBut, the order seems illegal. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/27/opinion/trumps-immigration-ban-is-illegal.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/27/opinion/trumps-immigratio...
- shard972 10y agoIt's hard to take the NYT or WaPo seriously when they say something trump has done is illegal. If they were right before then we wouldn't be here and trump would have already been denied office or been impeached on day 1.
- denzil_correa 10y agoAd hominem. The NYT has cited legal precedence in that article. Besides, it is an opinion piece by David J. Bier who is an immigration policy analyst.
- shard972 10y agoI'm not dismissing the argument outright, i'm just giving my opinion piece ;)
- denzil_correa 10y agoYour opinion "piece" wasn't on the content of the article but who wrote it. ;)
- shard972 10y agoNope, wrong again. It was on who published it ;) The NYT is a company, it can't write articles, only people can Look at my original comment, when did I even come close to mentioning the author or his track record in particular? I mention the NYT and WaPo.
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- flycaliguy 10y agoI agree it's politics, no argument there. Perhaps the Saudi question has to do with ISIS instead of Al Quiada being the enemy?
- jopython 10y agoOmar Mateen the pulse gay club muslim killer from Florida is Afghan. Why is Afghanistan not in the list?
- throwaway_374 10y agoActually he was American born but don't let the facts get in the way: "Mateen was born Omar Mir Seddique[6] on November 16, 1986,[7] in New Hyde Park, New York, to Afghan parents."