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Linux isn't really there yet. On my 3200x1800 XPS13 running Fedora, it took quite a bit of tweaking to get a usable desktop. My DE, Cinnamon, ... I don't use

Linux isn't really there yet. On my 3200x1800 XPS13 running Fedora, it took quite a bit of tweaking to get a usable desktop. My DE, Cinnamon, ... I don't use KDE, ... Or should we say that Cinnamon on Fedora doesn't work for you, on your hardware instead of dismissing something that many of us prefer to any other operating system, paid or free? Edit: I'm a bit fed up with people writing like they can decide what is good or not. I have used Windows since 1995, Linux since at least 2003, Mac (full time for both work and personal) for almost 3 years around 2010. FTR I was enthusiastic about getting a Mac, paid more for software than I'd ever done before, got my employer to pay for extra screen, keyboard, mouse and I think even an extra trackpad. For me it was a huge disappointment and I suffered through the last year after finally admitting it didn't work for me. I have my opinions. I don't say you cannot prefer something else, but I will not accept other peoples authority to decide which OS is best for me and everyone else. Edit2: as usual I don't mind the downvotes but I ask you to please tell me what I did to deserve them.

makomk 10y ago
Very few people are going to be using KDE apps exclusively. For a start, it doesn't have a modern web browser, and a huge amount of stuff relies on one these days.
- reitanqild 10y ago
  KDE Neon that I use currently comes with Firefox as tha default browser out of the box. For me at least that is the only modern browser I want.
AdmiralAsshat 10y ago
Your defensiveness about your preferred OS blinds you to the point I'm trying to make. There's a reason that there's an entire page on the ArchWiki dedicated to tweaking for HiDPI: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HiDPI https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HiDPI The fact is, it's not uniformly supported yet across Linux distros. Qt apps should theoretically be DPI-aware, but that's no guarantee either. See the various bugs filed against VLC, for instance: https://trac.videolan.org/vlc/ticket/17823 https://trac.videolan.org/vlc/ticket/17823 If your goal is to prove that it can be done, then I'm sure you'd be perfectly happy with KDE or KaOS in order to prevent someone from downloading an app that might not be HiDPI compliant. But for the average person, it might be more trouble than it's worth. Or they might not like KDE. In which case, my recommendation that it might be better to stick with 1080P for now still stands.
- reitanqild 10y ago
  The problem IMO is you just say Linux isn't there yet. You state it like a fact. You say it with no reservation about this being a very high resolution display etc. In my opinion it wouldn't be less serious if I said Mac and Windows aren't really there yet because their package managers really doesn't compare to apt. Note: I don't say this. (At least not anymore : )
  - tekklloneer 10y ago
    The quality of a package manager is of much less importance to a desktop system user than the (un)readability display, I would think.
    - shaan7 10y ago
      That is a very dangerous statement tbh. In general it is much more important for any system to have its foundations robust.
      - tekklloneer 10y ago
        A package management system is a convenience, not a requirement for desktop users. Chromebooks have one of the most robust and well built foundations I've ever seen, and the platform lacks any semblance of low level package management.
  - stormbrew 10y ago
    For HiDPI screens? Linux really truly isn't there yet. I say this as someone who has used almost entirely linux desktops and laptops for years, and not exclusively for a long time before that, and who finds nearly everything about a linux desktop better than the alternatives (yes, really). But my HiDPI laptop brings me frequent pain that I wasn't anticipating and it's not clear there's even a path forward to solving those problems in a consistent way. It's a whack-a-mole problem.
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makomk 10y ago

Very few people are going to be using KDE apps exclusively. For a start, it doesn't have a modern web browser, and a huge amount of stuff relies on one these days.

reitanqild 10y ago
KDE Neon that I use currently comes with Firefox as tha default browser out of the box. For me at least that is the only modern browser I want.

AdmiralAsshat 10y ago

Your defensiveness about your preferred OS blinds you to the point I'm trying to make. There's a reason that there's an entire page on the ArchWiki dedicated to tweaking for HiDPI: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HiDPI https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HiDPI The fact is, it's not uniformly supported yet across Linux distros. Qt apps should theoretically be DPI-aware, but that's no guarantee either. See the various bugs filed against VLC, for instance: https://trac.videolan.org/vlc/ticket/17823 https://trac.videolan.org/vlc/ticket/17823 If your goal is to prove that it can be done, then I'm sure you'd be perfectly happy with KDE or KaOS in order to prevent someone from downloading an app that might not be HiDPI compliant. But for the average person, it might be more trouble than it's worth. Or they might not like KDE. In which case, my recommendation that it might be better to stick with 1080P for now still stands.

reitanqild 10y ago
The problem IMO is you just say Linux isn't there yet. You state it like a fact. You say it with no reservation about this being a very high resolution display etc. In my opinion it wouldn't be less serious if I said Mac and Windows aren't really there yet because their package managers really doesn't compare to apt. Note: I don't say this. (At least not anymore : )
- tekklloneer 10y ago
  The quality of a package manager is of much less importance to a desktop system user than the (un)readability display, I would think.
  - shaan7 10y ago
    That is a very dangerous statement tbh. In general it is much more important for any system to have its foundations robust.
    - tekklloneer 10y ago
      A package management system is a convenience, not a requirement for desktop users. Chromebooks have one of the most robust and well built foundations I've ever seen, and the platform lacks any semblance of low level package management.
- stormbrew 10y ago
  For HiDPI screens? Linux really truly isn't there yet. I say this as someone who has used almost entirely linux desktops and laptops for years, and not exclusively for a long time before that, and who finds nearly everything about a linux desktop better than the alternatives (yes, really). But my HiDPI laptop brings me frequent pain that I wasn't anticipating and it's not clear there's even a path forward to solving those problems in a consistent way. It's a whack-a-mole problem.
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