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TheFacebook.com’s darker side (2004)
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- jorge_maldanado 10y ago> Al Capone used something similar in the 1930s called “themugshot.com” and more recently, Martha Stewart used “itsagoodthing.com” to form her “Living” cadre. It’s practically the oldest trick in the book. I don't quite really understand this 'oldest trick in the book.'. Can anyone explain what this so called scheme is? Thank you!
- jpatokal 10y agoIt's a joke. Facebook was new and shiny in 2004, which is why accusing Zuck of copying (non-existent) Mafia websites from the 1930s is funny.
- clix11 10y agoInfiltrating the ranks of your enemy? Basically, if he got most of the smart people in their 20s as users of the site, it would take that longer for someone to uncover his operations. That's what Al Capone did, though I have no idea about Martha Stewart.
- wallabie 10y agoIn the distant future, when they discover the endless jars of eggs and sperm in Mark Zuckerberg's basement, somewhere, Chris Holt will be saying "I told you so."
- kowdermeister 10y agoI mean, no one in their right mind REALLY believed that Facebook needs all that server farms, right? :)
- 72deluxe 10y agoThey did when they ran PHP. Now they compile their PHP to C++ so it'll run faster and with less CPU and cooling requirements. Also, writing PHP is easier than C++ so it's beneficial in that they get a wider pool of developers to use, and they can pay less. Genius really. So, now their server farms must be a cover-up, or they're using an old version of MySQL that kept a lot of its clustering data in RAM and are afraid it'll bomb out :-)
- seattle_spring 10y agoSo they can pay less? Do you have any idea how much FB pays?
- 72deluxe 10y agoNo but I know that PHP developers get paid less than C++, typically. That's particularly the case here in the UK. I would wager than employing an army of C++ devs would be costlier than employing an army of PHP devs.
- tdkl 10y agoI'll just comment on the stanforddaily website how clean it looked and loaded fast even without any crap like AMP. Just compare it to the current site.
- noway421 10y agoPure HTML y'all. No megabytes of css, no bootstrap, no webpack with plethora of dependencies to load, parse and execute. We went the other route.
- lmm 10y agoBootstrap is fine - frankly it's stuff that should have been the browser defaults already. There's no reason that something like motherfuckingwebsite shouldn't, in a modern browser, look like it would under bootstrap (that is to say, it should have thin but nonzero margins, high-contrast text but maybe slightly off-black on off-white, and any form controls should be bigger than the standard browser ones).
- Nition 10y agoWell, there is a little bit of CSS. http://web.archive.org/web/20041010133026cs_/http://www.stanforddaily.com/static/daily2.css http://web.archive.org/web/20041010133026cs_/http://www.stan...
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- allover 10y agoWhy the drive-by attacks on good tools? This kind of stuff is tiring and just adds to the noise. > No megabytes of css Why would there ever be megabytes of CSS for such a site, apart from for ads, which is the main problem with modern 'content sites'. > no bootstrap Bootstrap can be tiny, and a big win in productivity/quality, so 'no Bootstrap' likely cost the devs in its lack of availabilty at the time. It looks far worse and is less usable on mobile particularly (but on desktop too) than it would be if built with Bootstrap. > No webpack with plethora of dependencies to load, parse and execute. Why is that even relevant? Who exactly is advocating for 'webpack with plethora of dependencies' for that kind of website?
- terminado 10y agoJesus christ. It's so hard to believe that's only from 2004. I feel like that era transpired 40 years ago. The period of time before smartphones feels like it happened in the 1970's to me. The difference between 2000 and 2015 is so absurdly radical it begs disbelief.
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- 65827 10y agoIt's like things are accelerating isn't it? I remember trying to convince people they should sign up for email accounts in like 1992, I remember them looking at me like I was trying to sell them on a cult. Those people staring at me were such fucking dinosaurs they lost siblings to polio. Imagine that craziness. Now I feel like if I don't have a cyberbrain by 2022 it will be a huge letdown.
- Swizec 10y agoCrazier still. The young generation once more has siblings who die from polio and measles and such. For reasons. Maybe we're the dinosaurs.
- acetoxy 10y agoWhat do you mean? According to WHO, measles caused 2.6 million deaths a year before 1980, but only 134 200 in 2015. Polio dropped from 350 000 cases in 1988 to 74 in 2015.
- the_watcher 10y agoThis is not what I expected it to be.
- michaelchisari 10y agoCollege satire is always so cringey, Ivy League especially so.
- WoodenChair 10y agoStanford is not in the Ivy League.
- michaelchisari 10y agoIvy Plus.
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- dannylandau 10y agoSo what ever came of Chris Holt?
- sudoscript 10y agoHe is a writer at a mobile games startup in San Francisco. Both kidneys still somehow intact.
- GCA10 10y agoHe's a senior editor at Super Evil Megacorp, the mobile-games site, according to his LinkedIn profile. To my astonishment, http://womenwhowanttosleepwithchrisholt.com/ http://womenwhowanttosleepwithchrisholt.com/ is an unclaimed domain name. At least that's true as of 4:14 p.m. Pacific time.
- elastic_church 10y agoastonishing. monopoly on SEO right there folks
- fastball 10y agoNot true anymore...
- GCA10 10y agoThis domain could be the current-day equivalent of the famous Red Paperclip of a decade ago. The opportunities for "value creation" are the stuff of movies. I'll watch with interest what happens to it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_red_paperclip https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_red_paperclip
- acetoxy 10y agoAnd what about his brother Steve?
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- King-Aaron 10y ago> Perhaps “acne-ridden dork magazine” would have worked better. I kid — sort of. Cornell girls are hideous. Yeah wow.
- em3rgent0rdr 10y agosounds like typical college rivalry.
- santaclaus 10y agoIs there Stanford vs. Cornell shade? Ivy Leaguers get touchy when Stanford people call themselves an Ivy (hell they get touchy that Penn is an Ivy) but is there actual direct beef?
- sova 10y agoWow, what a hysterical compendium of excellence. You know, it's optional that people use such services, and I think that once cooler shaz comes out people will drop it like it's hot, to quote a contemporary philosopher.
- teddyh 10y ago> Many people have told me that they are surprised that a computer science major from Harvard designed this people-meeting service. Can Facebook still be considered a “people-meeting service”?
- CoryG89 10y agoI don't know that Zuckerberg ever considered it a "people-meeting" service.
- andrewstuart2 10y agoThat's exactly the purpose a literal face book served before Facebook implemented a digital equivalent. Granted, it's not been the sole purpose of the site for quite a while, but originally that was the value proposition for users.
- awfgylbcxhrey 10y agoBack in 2009, you could join, I think, two "networks" and easily search and browse within those networks, firing off messages to anyone who seemed interesting. IIRC, that functionality disappeared a few years ago. Now FB is almost entirely a way to connect with people you already know, rather than a way to actually meet people.
- akerro 10y agoNow it's mostly used to offend people, break relation-ships, blame and shout at others.
- donretag 10y agoNot sure why the author is so perplexed about thefacebook.com. Friendster and Myspace were already in existence and popular. Facebook was just another competitor with slightly different features (or lack there of (no customizations))
- adamson 10y agoWhat was CS235? I graduated 2016 and I don't remember a course with that number ever being offered
- hifigi 10y agoCS 235: Applied Robot Design for Non-Robot-Designers: How to Fix, Modify, Design, and Build Circa 2012-2013
- animex 10y agoI'd rather they take an organ than what they take from us today :-)
- aluminussoma 10y agoThough satire, the fake Moskovitz quote was interesting: "I don’t want to elaborate too much on our end goal / purpose, but I will say we are not without a plan." I wonder at what point it became clear to Facebook that they were sitting on a targeted advertising goldmine? Surely it was not on the minds of Zuckerberg and Moskovitz (or anyone else!) in the company's early years.
- crispytx 10y agoLMAO, someone bought the URL: womenwhowanttosleepwithchrisholt.com And who ever bought it, isn't Chris Holt!
- tabrischen 10y agoIs that why I keep getting those Asian egg donor ads on Facebook ?
- NuDinNou 10y ago"Corny, Mr. Zuckerberg? No, that seems downright suspicious. Why shell out cash for a Web s ite that serves other people? I smell a rat." Taking into account that Zuckerberg is jewish, comparing him to a rat, isn't this message anti-semite?
- dibstern 10y agoNope, as a Jewish guy I've not heard that anti-semetic trope before, seems like that must be a pretty uncommon trope to have heard. Do people really call Jewish people rats, where you're from?
- NuDinNou 10y agoI never heard in real life, but I saw Inglourious Basterds and thought that was a common association made by the Nazi.
- sah2ed 10y agoNo, he didn't compare Zuckerberg to a rat. "Smelling a rat" is an idiomatic expression [1] that means that something is suspicious or wrong. [1] http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/smell+a+rat http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/smell+a+rat
- Khaine 10y agoI remember being able to look up who was in your class. Facebook was so much more enjoyable when it was just university students, it was more fun, playful, and I guess innocent. Since facebook expanded outside of universities its become more generic, and corporate and lost its "joie de vivre"
- stillsut 10y agoHere's a trick that used to work in 2005: You could search for people with a favorite movie, then filter by dorm. You'd write on their wall, invariably the person who listed the movie would own it on DVD, you'd walk over and borrow it. It was such a tight-knit community you could go "I saw you on facebook, can I have your stuff? Don't worry I'm on facebook too and will give it back"
- Khaine 10y agoI also remember not wanting to join facebook because it used your real name. I was so use to using nicknames/handles/avatars etc that the thought of using your real name was uncomfortable to me. I must have been one of the last people on campus to sign up
- ezequiel-garzon 10y agoAlso available here [1], with a PDF version of the printed issue. It's interesting that the archive is separate from the Stanford Daily website. [1] http://stanforddailyarchive.com/cgi-bin/stanford?a=d&d=stanford20040310-01.2.22 http://stanforddailyarchive.com/cgi-bin/stanford?a=d&d=stanf...
- Jerrysource 10y agoi am very suspicious of my fiance of two years now that she's cheating on me, she has changed passwords to every account that she has, plus put a pin lock on her phone, i have been searching for ways to retrieve her text messages without installing any software on her phone or having access to it, so far i am not having any luck. we have a 19 year history together, plus a beautiful 18 year old daughter & this is eating me up inside. But i finally burst on this page from Google and found the God eye who changed my whole story for good! He help me hack her FB, her emails and her phone number and i got to see all his messages and apps from her phone. only for me to found out she's cheating and have a son out there without my consent but i thank the God eye for letting me know all this and am moving on fine with my life and my daughter. He's also involved in any sort of hacking issues. Hurray!! Get to him on (Godeyeviewhacker@hotmail.com)