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So we're reverting back to killing trees.

by gulperxcx 10y ago

kagamine 10y ago
What price a PC compared to a farmed forest?
- icebraining 10y ago
  Are you saying they also update their social media presence using paper?
  - kagamine 10y ago
    It's known as a letter to the editor!
- dmoo 10y ago
  As I always say, trees for paper are a crop with a long growth cycle. If you don't need the paper who will plant the trees?
  - pbhjpbhj 10y ago
    What proportion of planting is for paper, I'd expect wood used in construction to be a greater demand?
    - erikbye 10y ago
      According to the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations (FAO), globally around 40 percent of the annual industrial wood harvest is processed for paper and paperboard. The pulp and paper industry is the fourth largest industrial user of energy, consuming 6.4 EJ in 2005, and a significant emitter of greenhouse gas (source EIA report 2008). Paper consumption has risen by 400% in the past 40 years. 35% of trees harvested are due to paper manufacture. 6.5+ million trees were cut down to make 16 billion paper cups used by US consumers, only for coffee, in 2006. Paper waste accounts for up to 40% of total waste in the United States. 71.6 tons per year. Sources: Wikipedia, WWF, FAO
      - pbhjpbhj 10y ago
        Thanks for that. Crazy 'cups' statistics.
  - pbhjpbhj 10y ago
    What proportion of planting is for paper, I'd expect wood used in construction to be a greater demand?
TeMPOraL 10y ago
I think this whole "go digital to save the trees" thing is utter bullshit, for the following reason: - the digital revolution made people actually use more paper - you get a shit ton of paper from a single tree; how much resources do you need to use to manufacture a computer, and keep it running? - paper is recyclable - as long as you keep recycling paper, it actually makes sense to plant trees and then cut it down - it sucks CO₂ out of the atmosphere and keeps it out
- tonyedgecombe 10y ago
  I remember a HP salesman telling me filing cabinet sales went through the roof as laser printers became more popular, he said the paperless office was as likely as the paperless toilet. However I think that has turned around in recent years, worldwide paper production volumes are decreasing.
  - FroshKiller 10y ago
    The paperless toilet is the norm in some places, you know.
    - tossaway322 10y ago
      Some places like men's stall 3 in the 24 Hour Fitness Super Sport Gym in the Village, Houston, Texas!8-((
  - slfnflctd 10y ago
    > worldwide paper production volumes are decreasing That may be true of regular paper and/or the overall production of paper products, but with all the increased retail shipping I would be very surprised if it's true of cardboard.

So we're reverting back to killing trees.

kagamine 10y ago

What price a PC compared to a farmed forest?

icebraining 10y ago
Are you saying they also update their social media presence using paper?
- kagamine 10y ago
  It's known as a letter to the editor!
dmoo 10y ago
As I always say, trees for paper are a crop with a long growth cycle. If you don't need the paper who will plant the trees?
- pbhjpbhj 10y ago
  What proportion of planting is for paper, I'd expect wood used in construction to be a greater demand?
  - erikbye 10y ago
    According to the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations (FAO), globally around 40 percent of the annual industrial wood harvest is processed for paper and paperboard. The pulp and paper industry is the fourth largest industrial user of energy, consuming 6.4 EJ in 2005, and a significant emitter of greenhouse gas (source EIA report 2008). Paper consumption has risen by 400% in the past 40 years. 35% of trees harvested are due to paper manufacture. 6.5+ million trees were cut down to make 16 billion paper cups used by US consumers, only for coffee, in 2006. Paper waste accounts for up to 40% of total waste in the United States. 71.6 tons per year. Sources: Wikipedia, WWF, FAO
    - pbhjpbhj 10y ago
      Thanks for that. Crazy 'cups' statistics.
- pbhjpbhj 10y ago
  What proportion of planting is for paper, I'd expect wood used in construction to be a greater demand?

TeMPOraL 10y ago

I think this whole "go digital to save the trees" thing is utter bullshit, for the following reason: - the digital revolution made people actually use more paper - you get a shit ton of paper from a single tree; how much resources do you need to use to manufacture a computer, and keep it running? - paper is recyclable - as long as you keep recycling paper, it actually makes sense to plant trees and then cut it down - it sucks CO₂ out of the atmosphere and keeps it out

tonyedgecombe 10y ago
I remember a HP salesman telling me filing cabinet sales went through the roof as laser printers became more popular, he said the paperless office was as likely as the paperless toilet. However I think that has turned around in recent years, worldwide paper production volumes are decreasing.
- FroshKiller 10y ago
  The paperless toilet is the norm in some places, you know.
  - tossaway322 10y ago
    Some places like men's stall 3 in the 24 Hour Fitness Super Sport Gym in the Village, Houston, Texas!8-((
- slfnflctd 10y ago
  > worldwide paper production volumes are decreasing That may be true of regular paper and/or the overall production of paper products, but with all the increased retail shipping I would be very surprised if it's true of cardboard.