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Show HN: GitHub trending alternative that ranks repos by contribution rate

142 points by nagasaki45 10y ago

moinnadeem 10y ago
Do you normalize the contribution rate by the number of contributors?
- TheDong 10y ago
  More contributors is a sign of a good project though; it shouldn't be penalized for that and, if anything, the spread over contributors should reward a project as being better (often a sign of more different people using it, improved bus factor, distributed ownership/governance/approval, etc etc)
- nagasaki45 10y ago
  The way contribution rate is calculated is documented in the about page (http://www.krihelinator.xyz/about http://www.krihelinator.xyz/about). I hope that it answers your question. In general, it seems that just from reading the term "contribution rate" several people predict that it only count commits. Commits have the least weight in the calculation. The number of contributors are much more important as well as number of issues and pull requests.
tscs37 10y ago
I find this idea good, github stars and number of forks is usually not a great metric to measure the quality of a project. (Tho contribution rate is probably not perfect either but atleast we know the project is active)
pmiller2 10y ago
I think stars are a better measure, because ranking by contribution rate is just selecting for big projects. It also purposely omits one author projects.
- Fnoord 10y ago
  Why not both, allowing different settings/selections?
- Chloro 10y ago
  Agreed, quality over quantity. Plus there are plenty of excellent tools that aren't being actively developed but are still very popular.
- CamelCaseName 10y ago
  Stars can also be gamed. As Zalatax mentioned in this thread, Resume requires you to star it before use.
OJFord 10y ago
Fantastic that #2's description is: > scheib's chromium.org fork for personal use, updated when useful to me. -- EDIT: Oh, but of course, it's just because he pulled thousands of commits from upstream... Yeah, I don't think "contribution rate" is a great idea, at least not as implemented.
anton_tarasenko 10y ago
I tried to do the opposite once: to rank GitHub repos by effectiveness of contributions, where effectiveness is measured as stars divided by the number of contributions. Sort of, best things done quickly. With all cons and pros of this metric, I've got these projects in top 5: 1. ievms: Automated installation of the Microsoft IE App Compat virtual machines, https://github.com/xdissent/ievms https://github.com/xdissent/ievms 2. resume: Resumes generated using the GitHub informations, https://github.com/resume/resume.github.com https://github.com/resume/resume.github.com 3. impress.js: It's a presentation framework based on the power of CSS3 transforms and transitions in modern browsers, https://github.com/impress/impress.js https://github.com/impress/impress.js 4. deepdream: Neural Network art, https://github.com/google/deepdream https://github.com/google/deepdream 5. favicon-cheat-sheet: cheat sheet to favicon sizes/types, https://github.com/audreyr/favicon-cheat-sheet https://github.com/audreyr/favicon-cheat-sheet
- Zalastax 10y ago
  Resume gives me a weird feeling because of their "star to use" system. On one hand it prevents abuse, which is fair. On the other it makes you star the project just to try it out, broadcasting to my followers that I used the system, creating an undeserved network effect.
  - catshirt 10y ago
    yeah. really sad to see that type of- can i call it dark pattern?- on GitHub. obviously not an apples to apples comparison- but markdown-resume is where it's at anyway. https://github.com/there4/markdown-resume https://github.com/there4/markdown-resume
sergiotapia 10y ago
Source is written in Elixir: https://github.com/nagasaki45/krihelinator https://github.com/nagasaki45/krihelinator
pbz 10y ago
Why is vscode showing up twice? Once under "Microsoft" and then under "microsoft". The numbers to the right are different too.
- nagasaki45 10y ago
  It's a bug :-) Already reported (https://github.com/Nagasaki45/krihelinator/issues/99 https://github.com/Nagasaki45/krihelinator/issues/99) and will be handled soon.
elzi 10y ago
I would love more discoverability for Github - but can't help but think this doesn't reflect what is "trending". Github does, fairly accurate, show what's trending - I think it's just that trends in software development can fatigue and annoy a lot of developers. From what I understand, creating an algorithm to reflect what is active/popular/well-supported and well-contributed, without creating the over-saturation/bubbling/reddit-like effect is hard to do, and doesn't necessarily get easier with a large data set. I hope someone more clever than myself can come up with something, though!
- ukyrgf 10y ago
  Yeah but Free Code Camp can't honestly be 'trending' for two years straight.
  - the_rara_avis 10y ago
    It does because one of the getting started tutorials features a GIF that suggests newcomers star their repository.
- Vinnl 10y ago
  Maybe an algorithm that ranks based on number of unique contributors in the past month or so?
  - nagasaki45 10y ago
    I agree, that's why the number of contributors in the last week have the most weight in the metric. See the about page (http://krihelinator.xyz/about http://krihelinator.xyz/about) for more details.
- tggran 10y ago
  This site has a list of repos with fast growth in their number of stars: http://gittrends.io/#/explore?page=1&language=All&domain=All&growth=Fast http://gittrends.io/#/explore?page=1&language=All&domain=All.... The list seems to be based on the shape of the curve of stars growth.
myth_drannon 10y ago
Most languages's contribution rate drops around Christmas time , except Haskell http://www.krihelinator.xyz/languages/history?languages=[%22Haskell%22] http://www.krihelinator.xyz/languages/history?languages=[%22... Truly a hobby language that programmers dream of using and only get to program in it for two weeks in a year.
kardashev 10y ago
Wasn't krihelinator the same guy who was doing revision history on his repositories and making himself the only contributor? (someone please correct me if I'm wrong)
- nagasaki45 10y ago
  That sounds horrible! It's definitely not me
nadaviv 10y ago
Why was this flagged?
- cornstalks 10y ago
  I'm not the flagger, but my first assumption is that it was an accident. I've accidentally fat-fingered the flag button numerous times when browsing HN on my phone, and I haven't always (immediately) realized it.
ZenoArrow 10y ago
Even though this metric favours commercially-funded development, I found it interesting to look through the list, thanks to the author for putting this site together. I also discovered an promising project I wasn't aware of, which was wp-calypso: https://github.com/Automattic/wp-calypso/blob/master/README.md https://github.com/Automattic/wp-calypso/blob/master/README.... It's still too early to say for sure, but it looks like we may be seeing the start of WordPress migrating away from PHP.
- nagasaki45 10y ago
  Thank you back for the positive feedback! Someone already reported that commercially-funded projects get high in the list (https://github.com/Nagasaki45/krihelinator/issues/100 https://github.com/Nagasaki45/krihelinator/issues/100). I'll need to think what to do about it...
Hydraulix989 10y ago
Package manager repos like Cocoapods and Gentoo's ebuilds are going to have a high contribution rate because they are updated every time any single one of their packages is updated.
EvgeniyZh 10y ago
It would be nice to show repos from different date using a history plot
anon335dtzbvc 10y ago
I did that for languages with pull request as metric https://madnight.github.io/githut https://madnight.github.io/githut
- nagasaki45 10y ago
  Wow! this is realy nice. The languages list looks quite similar to the one on the Krihelinator (http://www.krihelinator.xyz/languages http://www.krihelinator.xyz/languages), which is encouraging for both projects, I believe :-)
NamPNQ 10y ago
New project never go to trending, lol

142 points by nagasaki45 10y ago

moinnadeem 10y ago

Do you normalize the contribution rate by the number of contributors?

TheDong 10y ago
More contributors is a sign of a good project though; it shouldn't be penalized for that and, if anything, the spread over contributors should reward a project as being better (often a sign of more different people using it, improved bus factor, distributed ownership/governance/approval, etc etc)
nagasaki45 10y ago
The way contribution rate is calculated is documented in the about page (http://www.krihelinator.xyz/about http://www.krihelinator.xyz/about). I hope that it answers your question. In general, it seems that just from reading the term "contribution rate" several people predict that it only count commits. Commits have the least weight in the calculation. The number of contributors are much more important as well as number of issues and pull requests.

tscs37 10y ago

I find this idea good, github stars and number of forks is usually not a great metric to measure the quality of a project. (Tho contribution rate is probably not perfect either but atleast we know the project is active)

pmiller2 10y ago

I think stars are a better measure, because ranking by contribution rate is just selecting for big projects. It also purposely omits one author projects.

Fnoord 10y ago
Why not both, allowing different settings/selections?
Chloro 10y ago
Agreed, quality over quantity. Plus there are plenty of excellent tools that aren't being actively developed but are still very popular.
CamelCaseName 10y ago
Stars can also be gamed. As Zalatax mentioned in this thread, Resume requires you to star it before use.

OJFord 10y ago

Fantastic that #2's description is: > scheib's chromium.org fork for personal use, updated when useful to me. -- EDIT: Oh, but of course, it's just because he pulled thousands of commits from upstream... Yeah, I don't think "contribution rate" is a great idea, at least not as implemented.

anton_tarasenko 10y ago

I tried to do the opposite once: to rank GitHub repos by effectiveness of contributions, where effectiveness is measured as stars divided by the number of contributions. Sort of, best things done quickly. With all cons and pros of this metric, I've got these projects in top 5: 1. ievms: Automated installation of the Microsoft IE App Compat virtual machines, https://github.com/xdissent/ievms https://github.com/xdissent/ievms 2. resume: Resumes generated using the GitHub informations, https://github.com/resume/resume.github.com https://github.com/resume/resume.github.com 3. impress.js: It's a presentation framework based on the power of CSS3 transforms and transitions in modern browsers, https://github.com/impress/impress.js https://github.com/impress/impress.js 4. deepdream: Neural Network art, https://github.com/google/deepdream https://github.com/google/deepdream 5. favicon-cheat-sheet: cheat sheet to favicon sizes/types, https://github.com/audreyr/favicon-cheat-sheet https://github.com/audreyr/favicon-cheat-sheet

Zalastax 10y ago
Resume gives me a weird feeling because of their "star to use" system. On one hand it prevents abuse, which is fair. On the other it makes you star the project just to try it out, broadcasting to my followers that I used the system, creating an undeserved network effect.
- catshirt 10y ago
  yeah. really sad to see that type of- can i call it dark pattern?- on GitHub. obviously not an apples to apples comparison- but markdown-resume is where it's at anyway. https://github.com/there4/markdown-resume https://github.com/there4/markdown-resume

sergiotapia 10y ago

Source is written in Elixir: https://github.com/nagasaki45/krihelinator https://github.com/nagasaki45/krihelinator

pbz 10y ago

Why is vscode showing up twice? Once under "Microsoft" and then under "microsoft". The numbers to the right are different too.

nagasaki45 10y ago
It's a bug :-) Already reported (https://github.com/Nagasaki45/krihelinator/issues/99 https://github.com/Nagasaki45/krihelinator/issues/99) and will be handled soon.

elzi 10y ago

I would love more discoverability for Github - but can't help but think this doesn't reflect what is "trending". Github does, fairly accurate, show what's trending - I think it's just that trends in software development can fatigue and annoy a lot of developers. From what I understand, creating an algorithm to reflect what is active/popular/well-supported and well-contributed, without creating the over-saturation/bubbling/reddit-like effect is hard to do, and doesn't necessarily get easier with a large data set. I hope someone more clever than myself can come up with something, though!

ukyrgf 10y ago
Yeah but Free Code Camp can't honestly be 'trending' for two years straight.
- the_rara_avis 10y ago
  It does because one of the getting started tutorials features a GIF that suggests newcomers star their repository.
Vinnl 10y ago
Maybe an algorithm that ranks based on number of unique contributors in the past month or so?
- nagasaki45 10y ago
  I agree, that's why the number of contributors in the last week have the most weight in the metric. See the about page (http://krihelinator.xyz/about http://krihelinator.xyz/about) for more details.
tggran 10y ago
This site has a list of repos with fast growth in their number of stars: http://gittrends.io/#/explore?page=1&language=All&domain=All&growth=Fast http://gittrends.io/#/explore?page=1&language=All&domain=All.... The list seems to be based on the shape of the curve of stars growth.

myth_drannon 10y ago

Most languages's contribution rate drops around Christmas time , except Haskell http://www.krihelinator.xyz/languages/history?languages=[%22Haskell%22] http://www.krihelinator.xyz/languages/history?languages=[%22... Truly a hobby language that programmers dream of using and only get to program in it for two weeks in a year.

kardashev 10y ago

Wasn't krihelinator the same guy who was doing revision history on his repositories and making himself the only contributor? (someone please correct me if I'm wrong)

nagasaki45 10y ago
That sounds horrible! It's definitely not me

nadaviv 10y ago

Why was this flagged?

cornstalks 10y ago
I'm not the flagger, but my first assumption is that it was an accident. I've accidentally fat-fingered the flag button numerous times when browsing HN on my phone, and I haven't always (immediately) realized it.

ZenoArrow 10y ago

Even though this metric favours commercially-funded development, I found it interesting to look through the list, thanks to the author for putting this site together. I also discovered an promising project I wasn't aware of, which was wp-calypso: https://github.com/Automattic/wp-calypso/blob/master/README.md https://github.com/Automattic/wp-calypso/blob/master/README.... It's still too early to say for sure, but it looks like we may be seeing the start of WordPress migrating away from PHP.

nagasaki45 10y ago
Thank you back for the positive feedback! Someone already reported that commercially-funded projects get high in the list (https://github.com/Nagasaki45/krihelinator/issues/100 https://github.com/Nagasaki45/krihelinator/issues/100). I'll need to think what to do about it...

Hydraulix989 10y ago

Package manager repos like Cocoapods and Gentoo's ebuilds are going to have a high contribution rate because they are updated every time any single one of their packages is updated.

EvgeniyZh 10y ago

It would be nice to show repos from different date using a history plot

anon335dtzbvc 10y ago

I did that for languages with pull request as metric https://madnight.github.io/githut https://madnight.github.io/githut

nagasaki45 10y ago
Wow! this is realy nice. The languages list looks quite similar to the one on the Krihelinator (http://www.krihelinator.xyz/languages http://www.krihelinator.xyz/languages), which is encouraging for both projects, I believe :-)

NamPNQ 10y ago

New project never go to trending, lol