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its not rico... https://www.popehat.com/2016/06/14/lawsplainer-its-not-rico-dammit/ https://www.popehat.com/2016/06/14/lawsplainer-its-not-rico-...

SomeStupidPoint 10y ago
My point was exactly that Uber can be construed as a criminal organization and their executives as the leaders of a large, international criminal organization who knowingly pay people to commit crimes on their behalf (that the bosses then profit from) and that their organization's primary business is the commission of such crimes. Is it still not RICO? Edit: Im pretty sure they could get money laundering related charges to stick well enough to charge (and settle or bring to trial, rather than dismissed), based on banking with money they know was earned in violation of various state and city laws. Money laundering law is bad (and so is RICO), and often can be applied in counter-intuitive ways by aggressive DAs.
- hluska 10y ago
  To indict under RICO, you need evidence that the organization is involved in racketeering. (The R stands for racketeer). Racketeering includes things like murder, kidnapping, bribery, and gambling. With all due respect, unless you are a practicing attorney, you are not qualified to make statements like this.
  - SomeStupidPoint 10y ago
    Money laundering is one of the things specifically outlined under RICO, and why my edit mentions it in particular.
    - hluska 10y ago
      Money laundering??? I have tried to be polite, but you are either incredibly ignorant or you are a troll. There is simply no way that it is acceptable to accuse any company of money laundering unless you have a serious amount of evidence. I am disengaging from this 'conversation' as it is completely useless.
joe_the_user 10y ago
Whatever your animated-gif-filled link says, a highly leveraged company which systematically breaks the law (even in small ways) is going to be vulnerable if someone with leverage decides that they need to file a lawsuit targeting the whole of the organization's activities. That suit could be conspiracy, it could be RICO applied rightly or wrongly or it could be some other broad and vague statute out there. Example: Zenefits Edit: And vulnerable doesn't mean doomed. Plenty of folks continue the approach of skirting the law until they don't have to anymore (Youtube etc). But skirting the law forever it is not a good business plan.
- dmoy 10y ago
  s/it's/isn't/?

SomeStupidPoint 10y ago

My point was exactly that Uber can be construed as a criminal organization and their executives as the leaders of a large, international criminal organization who knowingly pay people to commit crimes on their behalf (that the bosses then profit from) and that their organization's primary business is the commission of such crimes. Is it still not RICO? Edit: Im pretty sure they could get money laundering related charges to stick well enough to charge (and settle or bring to trial, rather than dismissed), based on banking with money they know was earned in violation of various state and city laws. Money laundering law is bad (and so is RICO), and often can be applied in counter-intuitive ways by aggressive DAs.

hluska 10y ago
To indict under RICO, you need evidence that the organization is involved in racketeering. (The R stands for racketeer). Racketeering includes things like murder, kidnapping, bribery, and gambling. With all due respect, unless you are a practicing attorney, you are not qualified to make statements like this.
- SomeStupidPoint 10y ago
  Money laundering is one of the things specifically outlined under RICO, and why my edit mentions it in particular.
  - hluska 10y ago
    Money laundering??? I have tried to be polite, but you are either incredibly ignorant or you are a troll. There is simply no way that it is acceptable to accuse any company of money laundering unless you have a serious amount of evidence. I am disengaging from this 'conversation' as it is completely useless.

joe_the_user 10y ago

Whatever your animated-gif-filled link says, a highly leveraged company which systematically breaks the law (even in small ways) is going to be vulnerable if someone with leverage decides that they need to file a lawsuit targeting the whole of the organization's activities. That suit could be conspiracy, it could be RICO applied rightly or wrongly or it could be some other broad and vague statute out there. Example: Zenefits Edit: And vulnerable doesn't mean doomed. Plenty of folks continue the approach of skirting the law until they don't have to anymore (Youtube etc). But skirting the law forever it is not a good business plan.

dmoy 10y ago
s/it's/isn't/?