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.xyz Launch Policies (2014) [pdf]

29 points by nathcd 10y ago

shujito 10y ago
why not celebrities in general?
010a 10y ago
What a strange find.
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cmdrfred 10y ago
>illegal, malicious and fraudulent defamation of Oprah Winfrey, Daniel Negari, or Justin Bieber; Why not just "illegal, malicious and fraudulent defamation". Publicity stunt?
- simonplus 10y ago
  Quite likely, or just a joke: Daniel Negari seems to be the CEO of .xyz (ceo.xyz)
- Finnucane 10y ago
  What is 'fraudulent defamation'? If the defamation is fraudulent, does that mean it is true?
api_or_ipa 10y ago
page 22 & 23 if you're looking for it. "Abusive use of a domain is described as an illegal, disruptive, malicious, or fraudulent action and includes, without limitation, the following: .... illegal, malicious and fraudulent defamation of Oprah Winfrey, Daniel Negari, or Justin Bieber"
t0mas88 10y ago
Any specific lawsuits that caused this to be a thing?
coreyp_1 10y ago
[QUOTE, page 22] Abusive use of a domain is described as an illegal, disruptive, malicious, or fraudulent action and includes, without limitation, the following: ● distribution of malware; ● dissemination of software designed to infiltrate or damage a computer system without the owner's’ informed consent, including, without limitation, computer viruses, worms, keyloggers, trojans, and fake antivirus products; ● illegal, malicious and fraudulent defamation of Oprah Winfrey, Daniel Negari, or Justin Bieber; [/QUOTE] [edit: formatting]
elastic_church 10y ago
that's oddly specific
jbob2000 10y ago
I think that's included as an example, the actual line reads: > Abusive use of a domain is described as an illegal, disruptive, malicious, or fraudulent action and includes, without limitation, the following So the real rule is not to defame anyone of sufficient public standing (ie. someone like Justin Beiber or Oprah Winfrey. Daniel Negari is the CEO of the company, so of course him too)
- Finnucane 10y ago
  Perhaps that's the intent, but the actual wording suggests specifically those individuals. Also, since he has claims on .security and .theatre, why doesn't he go for the obvious and add .securitytheatre?
- phreenet 10y ago
  I disagree, this states 'the following' then list bullets so it should be > Abusive use of a domain is described as an illegal, disruptive, malicious, or fraudulent action and includes, without limitation, illegal, malicious and fraudulent defamation of Oprah Winfrey, Daniel Negari, or Justin Bieber.
dsp1234 10y ago
Note that Daniel Negari is the CEO of XYZ LLC which is the owner of the registry. As for the other two... https://ceo.xyz/ https://ceo.xyz/
- devoply 10y ago
  He probably just loves both of them to death. Either that or perhaps they are investors.
  - takeda 10y ago
    Or "illegal, malicious and fraudulent defamation of Daniel Negari" would just sound that he's too self absorbed, and this way doesn't look as bad.
deanstag 10y ago
OP, how/why did you stumble across this?
- nathcd 10y ago
  I'm about to buy a .xyz domain, and - out of curiosity - looked up the TLD on Wikipedia, and found the defamation line from the original submitted title on Wikipedia, with the linked PDF as a source. (For those who missed the original title, it was something like "On .xyz domains, it's forbidden to defame: Justin Bieber, Oprah Winfrey, and Daniel Negari".) Mostly I found it a curiosity, but I was hoping it might spur some conversation about issues with centralized control in DNS. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.xyz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.xyz
geofft 10y ago
The HN practice of renaming submissions made this super confusing. What's the best practice here - write a blog post with a one-line comment and link to the source? (Although I guess that could fall victim to updating the link to point to the original source.)

29 points by nathcd 10y ago

shujito 10y ago

why not celebrities in general?

010a 10y ago

What a strange find.

deleted 10y ago

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cmdrfred 10y ago

>illegal, malicious and fraudulent defamation of Oprah Winfrey, Daniel Negari, or Justin Bieber; Why not just "illegal, malicious and fraudulent defamation". Publicity stunt?

simonplus 10y ago
Quite likely, or just a joke: Daniel Negari seems to be the CEO of .xyz (ceo.xyz)
Finnucane 10y ago
What is 'fraudulent defamation'? If the defamation is fraudulent, does that mean it is true?

api_or_ipa 10y ago

page 22 & 23 if you're looking for it. "Abusive use of a domain is described as an illegal, disruptive, malicious, or fraudulent action and includes, without limitation, the following: .... illegal, malicious and fraudulent defamation of Oprah Winfrey, Daniel Negari, or Justin Bieber"

t0mas88 10y ago

Any specific lawsuits that caused this to be a thing?

coreyp_1 10y ago

[QUOTE, page 22] Abusive use of a domain is described as an illegal, disruptive, malicious, or fraudulent action and includes, without limitation, the following: ● distribution of malware; ● dissemination of software designed to infiltrate or damage a computer system without the owner's’ informed consent, including, without limitation, computer viruses, worms, keyloggers, trojans, and fake antivirus products; ● illegal, malicious and fraudulent defamation of Oprah Winfrey, Daniel Negari, or Justin Bieber; [/QUOTE] [edit: formatting]

elastic_church 10y ago

that's oddly specific

jbob2000 10y ago

I think that's included as an example, the actual line reads: > Abusive use of a domain is described as an illegal, disruptive, malicious, or fraudulent action and includes, without limitation, the following So the real rule is not to defame anyone of sufficient public standing (ie. someone like Justin Beiber or Oprah Winfrey. Daniel Negari is the CEO of the company, so of course him too)

Finnucane 10y ago
Perhaps that's the intent, but the actual wording suggests specifically those individuals. Also, since he has claims on .security and .theatre, why doesn't he go for the obvious and add .securitytheatre?
phreenet 10y ago
I disagree, this states 'the following' then list bullets so it should be > Abusive use of a domain is described as an illegal, disruptive, malicious, or fraudulent action and includes, without limitation, illegal, malicious and fraudulent defamation of Oprah Winfrey, Daniel Negari, or Justin Bieber.

dsp1234 10y ago

Note that Daniel Negari is the CEO of XYZ LLC which is the owner of the registry. As for the other two... https://ceo.xyz/ https://ceo.xyz/

devoply 10y ago
He probably just loves both of them to death. Either that or perhaps they are investors.
- takeda 10y ago
  Or "illegal, malicious and fraudulent defamation of Daniel Negari" would just sound that he's too self absorbed, and this way doesn't look as bad.

deanstag 10y ago

OP, how/why did you stumble across this?

nathcd 10y ago
I'm about to buy a .xyz domain, and - out of curiosity - looked up the TLD on Wikipedia, and found the defamation line from the original submitted title on Wikipedia, with the linked PDF as a source. (For those who missed the original title, it was something like "On .xyz domains, it's forbidden to defame: Justin Bieber, Oprah Winfrey, and Daniel Negari".) Mostly I found it a curiosity, but I was hoping it might spur some conversation about issues with centralized control in DNS. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.xyz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.xyz

geofft 10y ago

The HN practice of renaming submissions made this super confusing. What's the best practice here - write a blog post with a one-line comment and link to the source? (Although I guess that could fall victim to updating the link to point to the original source.)