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> You will not actually lose fat by lifting weights Of course you can lose fat by lifting weights. Calories in < calories out = weight loss (hopefully fat). An

> You will not actually lose fat by lifting weights Of course you can lose fat by lifting weights. Calories in < calories out = weight loss (hopefully fat). Any type of physical activity increases calories out.

dragonwriter 10y ago
> Calories in < calories out = weight loss Not necessarily, but the alternative is fat loss with greater muscle gain (b/c muscle has lower stored energy content per pound.)
delecti 10y ago
You can, but for the majority of people living in western cultures, it's really easy to have your "calories in" be way too high, such that it's effectively impossible to exercise away with "calories out". For most people, weight loss is first and foremost a calories in problem.
6DM 10y ago
Dieting while weight lifting in my experience just leads to various injuries. I don't mean the passing out while doing squats kind. I mean straining muscles in a painful way that can take the rest of the month to recover. Note that this was after ~5 months of training before I got the idea to try and lean out. Overall I just wouldn't recommend it. Maximum weight I would say is body weight, then it's more cardio than weight lifting.
- driverdan 10y ago
  Maximum lifting weight is going to vary from individual based on their experience and strength. If your muscles take weeks to recover you should see a doctor. That could be rhabdo or some other condition. It should never take that long.
  - graeme 10y ago
    >If your muscles take weeks to recover you should see a doctor. Are you talking about normal recovery after weightlifting? The OP was talking about muscle strains. I've hurt muscles that then take a month to recover. It seems fundamentally different from tired muscles after a workout.
    - 6DM 10y ago
      Exactly, it's not recovery. It's an actual injury. I had been working out consistently 4-5 times a week at a high intensity for at least 5 months straight before this occurred. I know what that kind of muscle soreness feels like.
      - graeme 10y ago
        Yup. And to be clear to anyone who thinks it's only overwork: I've had these injuries while training intensely, and I've had them after rest periods when I start again, or during non-intense training. Muscle injuries can happen in either circumstances, and they take a while to heal properly.
amelius 10y ago
> Of course you can lose fat by lifting weights. Calories in < calories out = weight loss (hopefully fat). But the problem is that you can't lift weights without consuming sufficient calories (in a sustainable way).
- driverdan 10y ago
  You can absolutely lift weights while consuming fewer calories than you burn. It's especially effective for new lifters and is often called recomp (losing fat while gaining muscle).
mrgreenfur 10y ago
I've heard this so many times over the years and while it's beautiful and simple and conceptually right, it's so impractical that it's "wrong". The body digests calories different depending on the source, e.g. eating an orange vs drinking orange juice. Going to the gym for an hour might burn a few hundred calories, which is about a snickers bar. These two combined means that adding the calories of your food vs the calories at the gym is a really bad way to lose weight. Of course, I'm not a doctor and have no sources to back this up, other than reading the China Study 10 years ago. :)
- rhoursour 10y ago
  I can help with that. You might be interested in this video which talks about why calorie content in food is not as useful as you might think: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRSeyCZwEUI&t=2s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRSeyCZwEUI&t=2s
  - mrgreenfur 10y ago
    Great video thanks for sharing.
hufflepuff 10y ago
> Calories in < calories out = weight loss (hopefully fat). Nope. When calories in < calories out the body responds by reducing energy expenditure, not consuming the excess: https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/how-do-we-gain-weight-calories-part-1/ https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/how-do-we-gain-weight... https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/a-calorie-is-a-calorie-part-ii/ https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/a-calorie-is-a-calori... > Any type of physical activity increases calories out. This may be true but that doesn't mean that physical activity has a measurable effect on weight loss: https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/myth-exercise-exercise-part-1/ https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/myth-exercise-exercis... https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/exercise-effective-weight-loss-exercise-part-ii/ https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/exercise-effective-we...
- hacktothefuture 10y ago
  Nope. Anybody who has lost weight can confirm eating less results in fat (and some muscle) loss.

dragonwriter 10y ago

> Calories in < calories out = weight loss Not necessarily, but the alternative is fat loss with greater muscle gain (b/c muscle has lower stored energy content per pound.)

delecti 10y ago

You can, but for the majority of people living in western cultures, it's really easy to have your "calories in" be way too high, such that it's effectively impossible to exercise away with "calories out". For most people, weight loss is first and foremost a calories in problem.

6DM 10y ago

Dieting while weight lifting in my experience just leads to various injuries. I don't mean the passing out while doing squats kind. I mean straining muscles in a painful way that can take the rest of the month to recover. Note that this was after ~5 months of training before I got the idea to try and lean out. Overall I just wouldn't recommend it. Maximum weight I would say is body weight, then it's more cardio than weight lifting.

driverdan 10y ago
Maximum lifting weight is going to vary from individual based on their experience and strength. If your muscles take weeks to recover you should see a doctor. That could be rhabdo or some other condition. It should never take that long.
- graeme 10y ago
  >If your muscles take weeks to recover you should see a doctor. Are you talking about normal recovery after weightlifting? The OP was talking about muscle strains. I've hurt muscles that then take a month to recover. It seems fundamentally different from tired muscles after a workout.
  - 6DM 10y ago
    Exactly, it's not recovery. It's an actual injury. I had been working out consistently 4-5 times a week at a high intensity for at least 5 months straight before this occurred. I know what that kind of muscle soreness feels like.
    - graeme 10y ago
      Yup. And to be clear to anyone who thinks it's only overwork: I've had these injuries while training intensely, and I've had them after rest periods when I start again, or during non-intense training. Muscle injuries can happen in either circumstances, and they take a while to heal properly.

amelius 10y ago

> Of course you can lose fat by lifting weights. Calories in < calories out = weight loss (hopefully fat). But the problem is that you can't lift weights without consuming sufficient calories (in a sustainable way).

driverdan 10y ago
You can absolutely lift weights while consuming fewer calories than you burn. It's especially effective for new lifters and is often called recomp (losing fat while gaining muscle).

mrgreenfur 10y ago

I've heard this so many times over the years and while it's beautiful and simple and conceptually right, it's so impractical that it's "wrong". The body digests calories different depending on the source, e.g. eating an orange vs drinking orange juice. Going to the gym for an hour might burn a few hundred calories, which is about a snickers bar. These two combined means that adding the calories of your food vs the calories at the gym is a really bad way to lose weight. Of course, I'm not a doctor and have no sources to back this up, other than reading the China Study 10 years ago. :)

rhoursour 10y ago
I can help with that. You might be interested in this video which talks about why calorie content in food is not as useful as you might think: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRSeyCZwEUI&t=2s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRSeyCZwEUI&t=2s
- mrgreenfur 10y ago
  Great video thanks for sharing.

hufflepuff 10y ago

> Calories in < calories out = weight loss (hopefully fat). Nope. When calories in < calories out the body responds by reducing energy expenditure, not consuming the excess: https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/how-do-we-gain-weight-calories-part-1/ https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/how-do-we-gain-weight... https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/a-calorie-is-a-calorie-part-ii/ https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/a-calorie-is-a-calori... > Any type of physical activity increases calories out. This may be true but that doesn't mean that physical activity has a measurable effect on weight loss: https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/myth-exercise-exercise-part-1/ https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/myth-exercise-exercis... https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/exercise-effective-weight-loss-exercise-part-ii/ https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/exercise-effective-we...

hacktothefuture 10y ago
Nope. Anybody who has lost weight can confirm eating less results in fat (and some muscle) loss.