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Suggestion: get rid of the torrent files and just serve magnet urls in plain text without a clickable button. This way you get rid of the knowledge of who-down
by yakult 10y ago
Suggestion: get rid of the torrent files and just serve magnet urls in plain text without a clickable button. This way you get rid of the knowledge of who-downloaded-what, and also save some bandwidth.
- kasumis_ 10y agoIf 2 more users recommend this, it will be done.
- pizza 10y agodo this
- kasumis_ 10y agoIt will be done soon, thanks for voting.
- arthurcolle 10y agoWhat's the intent/desire for you to be on the delivering end of serving .torrent files?
- leetbulb 10y agoi recommend this
- repomies691 10y agoralph plz
- deafcalculus 10y agoVote to serve only magnet links.
- gigatexal 10y agoYes magnet only plz
- kowdermeister 10y agoI never download torrent files, just look for the magnet link. Same feature, why bother downloading?
- lsmod 10y agoIt's not the same.you'll be missing some of the trackers.
- asperous 10y agoMagnet URLs can and usually do include all of the trackers. http://www.bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0009.html#magnet-uri-format http://www.bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0009.html#magnet-uri-form... That being said DHT and PEX (BEP 5 and BEP 11) is good enough that you don't need them.
- anacrolix 10y agoThat's not entirely true. DHT is generally the most effective, but PEX and trackers help a lot when there aren't many seeds, or there's a lot of noise on the DHT.
- EE84M3i 10y agoMagnet links are perfectly fine for popular content, but because of the dependency on BEP 009 (Metadata exchange) for very long tail content it's often better to get the torrent file directly. For example, to get information about torrents that are on life support (e.g. have a couple seeds that show up for a few minutes a day), having the torrent file downloadable is invaluable, as it includes info like the size and the file names, etc. In many cases it's even possible to bring a torrent /back to life/ if you have the torrent file and got the content that was in it out of band. If you just have the magnet link you cannot do any of this.
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- EE84M3i 10y agoPlease don't remove downloads of .torrent files. If you don't have this it's impossible to know what files are in the torrent (or even how big they are!) without connecting to the swarm and relying on BEP 009 (Metadata exchange). I use this all the time for downloading very long tail content, and the move to have indexing sites be magnet-only is very frustrating.
- fulafel 10y agoThe DHT search from the magnet lookup will announce to the world what you are downloading, no?
- kasumis_ 10y agoYES, but still we donot download any content(because it reaches EXA Bytes).
- juskrey 10y agoYes!
- thecatspaw 10y agoYes, but the site owner does not know if the Person who views the page actually clicks the magnet link or not, so noone will be able to tell "due to your site, X people illegally downloaded file Y"
- antocv 10y ago"Due to your site, people viewed illegal content. Go to jail for X years". Is the current world we live in.
- unicornporn 10y ago> just serve magnet urls in plain text without a clickable button That would make it impossible to copy the magnet link from the search results page, which I believe is a really nice usability perk. For users that are less technically inclined, clickable links could be crucial (even if it gives you the theoretical possibility to track the click). I guess it depends on if you are prepared to be a search engine only for the 1337 crowd, or if you want casual users to have access to a decent search engine too. The Hacker News crowd could still just right click and copy the magnet link, so essentially you're just removing features for those who don't understand how technology works but are still dependant on it. Perhaps the best idea would be to keep the link and have a text area for selecting and copying like requested above. Consider this.
- StavrosK 10y agoClickable magnet links are fine, since the query doesn't actually go to the server.
- ryanbrunner 10y agoI think the point is that the clicks could be tracked via Javascript, even if the links themselves point elsewhere.
- StavrosK 10y agoAh, that's true, I kind of assumed no client-side trickery, as it would be easily detectable.
- JshWright 10y agoIf we're allowing javascript, then you might as well use links. It would be just as easy to check for selected text to find out what the user copied from the page.
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- unicornporn 10y ago
- rz2k 10y agoI don't do web development or design, but is tracking the selection of text that will be copied more difficult that tracking clicks in actual practice?
- icemelt8 10y agoYes, clicking a button or link will send a request to the server with some information in the header, such as which browser clicked from which IP. Selecting the text will trigger no such request, the developer will still know who opened the site and searched for what, but he cannot know the exact torrent that was copied.
- disiplus 10y agoclicking a magnet link wont fire a request to the server. yes you can track who clicked a magnet link with javascript but you can track who selected the text with javascript also.
- rhizome 10y agoThe magnet links can be in the page, and downloads and copy/paste UX can be achieved via JS just the same as server-backed as far as the end-user is concerned. This way the entire execution of the page can be audited.
- digitalengineer 10y agoSend an event into Google Analytics using GTM when a visitor copies text from your page http://dcarlbom.com/google-tag-manager/event-tracking-gtm-when-visitor-copies-text-from-page/ http://dcarlbom.com/google-tag-manager/event-tracking-gtm-wh...
- leni536 10y ago> This way you get rid of the knowledge of who-downloaded-what, and also save some bandwidth. I don't get this. It's a magnet link with magnet protocol. It will be handled by your torrent client, no additional request to the server whatsoever if you click on them. It's the same as plain text copying, but more convenient.
- jvzr 10y agoThat's still trackable via JS for instance. Selecting & copying plain text are (AFAIK) not trackable, hence the suggestion from parent.
- darawk 10y agoSelecting and copying are both definitely trackable.
- mnsc 10y agoIs "right click and copy url" trackable as well? Genuine question.
- coldtea 10y agoMaybe not in itself, but "user mouse pointer is above the url" and "user right clicked" are.
- masklinn 10y agoIt is trackable in itself through the `copy` clipboard event (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Events/copy https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Events/copy). Both keychord and contextual menu will trigger the event.
- coldtea 10y agoThe parent was asking whether the "Copy Link Address" (Chrome) or similar is other browsers is trackable though, not the more general copy to clipboard. I don't think that one is.
- mike-cardwell 10y agoAlternatively: Just don't log downloads of the torrent file? Those who care can use the magnet link, those who have a use case for the torrent file can get the unlogged torrent file. I prefer using torrent files, because I can just wget/curl them down into a directory being watched by my server which downloads torrents.
- supergreg 10y agoYou can use aria2c on the command line to generate the torrent file from the magnet link, so it's just as easy, only a little slower.
- mike-cardwell 10y agoThat looks good. Thanks for the tip.
- supergreg 10y ago> magnet urls in plain text A magnet as a link would be more useful. I'm sure the people worried about letting others know what they download can copy the link without clicking anyway.
- malevich88 10y agoagree