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It's so strange to see Google repeating all the same mistakes AOL did so many years ago. No I don't want your fucking garden, I want the network. If you get in

by 65827 10y ago

It's so strange to see Google repeating all the same mistakes AOL did so many years ago. No I don't want your fucking garden, I want the network. If you get in the way of that I'm done with you.

space_fountain 10y ago
Everything seems to be moving towards gardens right now. Certainly not just Google. It's one of the things that depresses me most about tech right now.
- swiley 10y ago
  They where when AOL was big too.
- flukus 10y ago
  The most depressing part of it is that the HN community don't seem to care and will actively cheer it in many cases (walled garden IRC and cloud in general). The only reason we have an open internet at all is because techies cared back in the day.
  - ycmbntrthrwaway 10y ago
    Internet is a co-operative anarchy: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1726#page-5 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1726#page-5
  - jdironman 10y ago
    I feel like this is only partially true. The majority of the articles, excluding those from large name corps, are simple loading pages. Using primarily the basic HTML and inline CSS. You do have the occasional blog page with some fancy touches, but the majority of the links that I click on while browsing HN has me questioning why, on sub par satellite internet, that HN and a majority of it's submitted posts work when Facebook, Google, Bing, etc.. does not. I feel it can. Everything just feels so bloated.
twsted 10y ago
Yes and the problem is Facebook. Google is fighting FB. In many respects I like gardens, I like curated contents. But I like the web more. The web needs diversity. We need more search engines for instance.
- HugoDaniel 10y ago
  G+ wasn't enough for them to realize that imitation is not a good strategy to use against FB
  - sah2ed 10y ago
    This. It appears as if Google's higher ups still haven't gotten the memo.
  - rocqua 10y ago
    In an alternative interpretation. G+ and AMP are both attempts by google to maintain relevance when faced with obsolescence due to becoming infrastructure rather than product.
CommanderData 10y ago
"You can't simply be done with Google. Too big. Trust me. I know, just like China. " On a serious note. Escaping Google on the internet is impossible. Can't be done without inconvenience.

by 65827 10y ago

It's so strange to see Google repeating all the same mistakes AOL did so many years ago. No I don't want your fucking garden, I want the network. If you get in the way of that I'm done with you.

space_fountain 10y ago

Everything seems to be moving towards gardens right now. Certainly not just Google. It's one of the things that depresses me most about tech right now.

swiley 10y ago
They where when AOL was big too.
flukus 10y ago
The most depressing part of it is that the HN community don't seem to care and will actively cheer it in many cases (walled garden IRC and cloud in general). The only reason we have an open internet at all is because techies cared back in the day.
- ycmbntrthrwaway 10y ago
  Internet is a co-operative anarchy: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1726#page-5 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1726#page-5
- jdironman 10y ago
  I feel like this is only partially true. The majority of the articles, excluding those from large name corps, are simple loading pages. Using primarily the basic HTML and inline CSS. You do have the occasional blog page with some fancy touches, but the majority of the links that I click on while browsing HN has me questioning why, on sub par satellite internet, that HN and a majority of it's submitted posts work when Facebook, Google, Bing, etc.. does not. I feel it can. Everything just feels so bloated.

twsted 10y ago

Yes and the problem is Facebook. Google is fighting FB. In many respects I like gardens, I like curated contents. But I like the web more. The web needs diversity. We need more search engines for instance.

HugoDaniel 10y ago
G+ wasn't enough for them to realize that imitation is not a good strategy to use against FB
- sah2ed 10y ago
  This. It appears as if Google's higher ups still haven't gotten the memo.
- rocqua 10y ago
  In an alternative interpretation. G+ and AMP are both attempts by google to maintain relevance when faced with obsolescence due to becoming infrastructure rather than product.

CommanderData 10y ago

"You can't simply be done with Google. Too big. Trust me. I know, just like China. " On a serious note. Escaping Google on the internet is impossible. Can't be done without inconvenience.