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From 2015

superkuh 10y ago
Yep. The author, Appelbaum, is no longer with Tor after falling victim to one of the many successful culture-based attacks on privacy and free software groups in 2015/2016.
- nerdponx 10y ago
  You're gonna have to explain that a little.
  - loeg 10y ago
    Much of the context can be found here: http://jacobappelbaum.net/ http://jacobappelbaum.net/ and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Appelbaum#Allegations_of_sexual_misconduct https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Appelbaum#Allegations_of... .
    - Natsu 10y ago
      I don't know any of the people involved, but this part always struck me as being pretty odd: ==== On 10 June, Jill Bähring, a woman whom three witnesses claimed to have seen being abused,[92] flatly denied the abuse allegations.[101] In a statement released by Gizmodo journalist William Turton, Bähring wrote: "Reading this highly distorted version of my experience, which is being used as one of the 'bulletproof examples' of Jacob's alleged misbehavior, I can’t help but wonder. Wonder about all the stories that have been published the last days. Wonder not only about mob justice on twitter, caused by rumors and speculation, but also about the accounts repeated by those who call themselves journalists. Wonder about how many other stories have been willingly misinterpreted. Wonder about the witnesses in all these stories, who coincidentally always seem to consist of the same set of people. Wonder about their motive to speak on my behalf without my consent."[102][103]
  - drinkjuice 10y ago
    https://github.com/Enegnei/JacobAppelbaumLeavesTor/blob/master/JacobAppelbaumLeavesTor.md https://github.com/Enegnei/JacobAppelbaumLeavesTor/blob/mast...
  - dqv 10y ago
    See: https://theintercept.com/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/ https://theintercept.com/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/ Which is the method governments use to fracture projects and communities. It has been theorized that a state actor orchestrated an attack on Appelbaum to oust him from the Tor project (1) to discredit him as an authoritative journalistic source [1: Appelbaum was one of the individuals given access to the Snowden documents]; and (2) to gain more control of the Tor project to introduce vulnerabilities. The events leading up to his ejection had a striking resemblance to the JTRIG manipulation tactics. It's very possible that Appelbaum was a bad actor, exploiting his credibility, but it's also highly suspect that these accusations came to light so late into his life. It seems that, prior to the release of the accusations, someone would have at least suggested that he was sexually exploitative. Yet, there doesn't seem to exist even a peep of anything close to misconduct. It's why these manipulation tactics are so surprisingly effective. Who should be believed? There's a strong moral dogma that suggests we should immediately assume that the accusations are truth, [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Appelbaum#Journalism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Appelbaum#Journalism
    - dannypgh 10y ago
      This is late into his life? Dominique Strauss-Kahn and Bill Cosby both exist, FYI.
- gohrt 10y ago
  They were attacks on violations of the community's sexual morality, not attacks on privacy and free software.
  - harry8 10y ago
    I don't know Mr Appelbaum at all, I do know trial by twitter, mob justice, unsubstantiated claims, authority claiming to have secret evidence and pronouncing someone guilty when I see it. I don't find any of that at all helpful in assessing someone's guilt or innocence. I don't have an opinion on guilt or innocence in the absence of evidence at all. I do note that at least some of the unsubstantiated accusations do seem to now have found substance as being made without the alleged victim's knowledge or consent and the alleged victim has denied the accusation in its entirety. The second time that happened I felt there is something not quite right going on. There's a distinct smell. Just what that is and why is a matter for speculation.
- metroidfan832 10y ago
  Appelbaum's relationship with Tor is well documented. I'm not sure why this post is downvoted so much. Social attacks against privacy enhancing OSS tools such as Tor, Tox, and Bitcoin have been well documented on popular forums.

From 2015

Yep. The author, Appelbaum, is no longer with Tor after falling victim to one of the many successful culture-based attacks on privacy and free software groups in 2015/2016.

nerdponx 10y ago
You're gonna have to explain that a little.
- loeg 10y ago
  Much of the context can be found here: http://jacobappelbaum.net/ http://jacobappelbaum.net/ and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Appelbaum#Allegations_of_sexual_misconduct https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Appelbaum#Allegations_of... .
  - Natsu 10y ago
    I don't know any of the people involved, but this part always struck me as being pretty odd: ==== On 10 June, Jill Bähring, a woman whom three witnesses claimed to have seen being abused,[92] flatly denied the abuse allegations.[101] In a statement released by Gizmodo journalist William Turton, Bähring wrote: "Reading this highly distorted version of my experience, which is being used as one of the 'bulletproof examples' of Jacob's alleged misbehavior, I can’t help but wonder. Wonder about all the stories that have been published the last days. Wonder not only about mob justice on twitter, caused by rumors and speculation, but also about the accounts repeated by those who call themselves journalists. Wonder about how many other stories have been willingly misinterpreted. Wonder about the witnesses in all these stories, who coincidentally always seem to consist of the same set of people. Wonder about their motive to speak on my behalf without my consent."[102][103]
- drinkjuice 10y ago
  https://github.com/Enegnei/JacobAppelbaumLeavesTor/blob/master/JacobAppelbaumLeavesTor.md https://github.com/Enegnei/JacobAppelbaumLeavesTor/blob/mast...
- dqv 10y ago
  See: https://theintercept.com/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/ https://theintercept.com/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/ Which is the method governments use to fracture projects and communities. It has been theorized that a state actor orchestrated an attack on Appelbaum to oust him from the Tor project (1) to discredit him as an authoritative journalistic source [1: Appelbaum was one of the individuals given access to the Snowden documents]; and (2) to gain more control of the Tor project to introduce vulnerabilities. The events leading up to his ejection had a striking resemblance to the JTRIG manipulation tactics. It's very possible that Appelbaum was a bad actor, exploiting his credibility, but it's also highly suspect that these accusations came to light so late into his life. It seems that, prior to the release of the accusations, someone would have at least suggested that he was sexually exploitative. Yet, there doesn't seem to exist even a peep of anything close to misconduct. It's why these manipulation tactics are so surprisingly effective. Who should be believed? There's a strong moral dogma that suggests we should immediately assume that the accusations are truth, [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Appelbaum#Journalism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Appelbaum#Journalism
  - dannypgh 10y ago
    This is late into his life? Dominique Strauss-Kahn and Bill Cosby both exist, FYI.
gohrt 10y ago
They were attacks on violations of the community's sexual morality, not attacks on privacy and free software.
- harry8 10y ago
  I don't know Mr Appelbaum at all, I do know trial by twitter, mob justice, unsubstantiated claims, authority claiming to have secret evidence and pronouncing someone guilty when I see it. I don't find any of that at all helpful in assessing someone's guilt or innocence. I don't have an opinion on guilt or innocence in the absence of evidence at all. I do note that at least some of the unsubstantiated accusations do seem to now have found substance as being made without the alleged victim's knowledge or consent and the alleged victim has denied the accusation in its entirety. The second time that happened I felt there is something not quite right going on. There's a distinct smell. Just what that is and why is a matter for speculation.
metroidfan832 10y ago
Appelbaum's relationship with Tor is well documented. I'm not sure why this post is downvoted so much. Social attacks against privacy enhancing OSS tools such as Tor, Tox, and Bitcoin have been well documented on popular forums.