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If you don't believe it, read Masters of Doom - it's a hugely sympathetic history of id and they still manage to look like sociopaths in it, especially Carmack.
by Paul_S 10y ago
If you don't believe it, read Masters of Doom - it's a hugely sympathetic history of id and they still manage to look like sociopaths in it, especially Carmack. They steal, lie and backstab their friends.
- csmattryder 10y agoEspecially Romero's "resignation". if that played out a tenth of how it was written, that's devastating. Admittedly, Romero was getting complacent and becoming more of the end-user than developer, but man... To get booted from your own creation with a prepared resignation letter, savage.
- rasz_pl 10y agoFiring sixth wheel that stopped producing anything of value a savage move? The best thing Romero was involved in after Doom(and 10 quake maps?) was founding Ion Storm and only screwing up Dallas office(Did you "suck him down"? "became his bitch"?[1]) leaving Austin alone to create Deus Ex. My fav is Brenda(wife) telling everyone a story of young brilliant Romero hacking computers at a military ICBM facility, basically a script to wargames .... [1] http://kotaku.com/5541406/john-romero-is-so-sorry-about-trying-to-make-you-his-bitch http://kotaku.com/5541406/john-romero-is-so-sorry-about-tryi...
- Notre1 10y agoI don't think sociopathic is an accurate characterization. Carmack's behavior struck me as similar to someone with Asperger's Syndrome (based on the Masters of DOOM book.)
- drcross 10y agoAnyone claiming Carmack to be a sociopath should remind themselves of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon's_razor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon's_razor
- roninb 10y agoI see so and so's razor thrown around so often I think many should remember philosophical niceties aren't always true. Sometimes the simplest explanation is not the correct one and sometimes things that could be simply attributed to stupidity are malicious (and targeted because of the nice disguise). I know a lot of people in the STEM field that simply find it easier to act like they're socially inept and treat people like shit rather than "put in the work" to have nice, courteous relationships with people. I'd argue some even feel it makes them seem more intelligent to "not fit in with the normies." That's not to say Carmack is or isn't a sociopath. I haven't read much on him outside of acknowledgement chapters in game design tutorials. It's just really tiring seeing people dismiss claims with aphorisms like the Greeks got everything right and we don't have to reason anymore...
- corysama 10y agoI've not read Masters of Doom, but I have heard Carmack describe his school-age self as a huge jerk. However, for a least the past 15 years he seems to have pulled a Gates (before Gates did) and has come across as one of the most genuine, nice people in tech. Not just in big, public displays but in every little thing he does in the constant public interaction that he has.
- Raphmedia 10y agoSociopath? There's no friends in business.
- drinkjuice 10y agoDoes that excuse sociopaths or indict business?
- m_fayer 10y agoI've met plenty of successful business people for whom profits and tactical considerations do not override ethics, loyalty, or basic decency. There's no physical law that says that the business context automatically inflicts the kind of brain damage that inevitably leads straight to psychopathy.
- dleslie 10y agoThere are many friends in business; they're necessary to aid in undermining those who act like they need none, and behave with predatory self-interest.
- metaphorm 10y ago...is what a sociopath would say