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I've been put off it for similar reasons - there doesn't seem to be much community or momentum. This means on the one hand that there's not as many resources as

I've been put off it for similar reasons - there doesn't seem to be much community or momentum. This means on the one hand that there's not as many resources as you might need and on the other hand that I'm concerned the project might falter and become abandoned. By contrast I'm really interested in Rust because as well as having interesting features I feel pretty confident that it's going to keep growing thanks to it's enthusiastic community.

aaron-lebo 10y ago
The sad thing about it is for many situations, Nim would be a better fit than Rust just due to GC (this makes Nim conceptually simpler and higher-level in a lot of contexts). Yet they can't raise more than $3k in support (see the top of this link). Not sure what has to happen for adoption but it's a real gem of a language that just needs users.
- dom96 10y ago
  > Yet they can't raise more than $3k in support (see the top of this link). Unfortunately the image on that page is misleading. We have been getting ~$1300 every month for the duration of our BountySource campaign, which isn't bad. I think that the ~$3k value only includes direct non-recurring payments via BountySource. Sadly, it isn't enough for either of us to work full-time on Nim.
  - aaron-lebo 10y ago
    Glad to hear it. Thanks for your work on the language and the book. For those interested in the language, it's worth your money: https://www.manning.com/books/nim-in-action https://www.manning.com/books/nim-in-action
    - dom96 10y ago
      No problem. Thank you for picking up a copy of my book, I'm glad you're enjoying it :)
  - the_duke 10y ago
    I hope you are making at least a little bit of money for yourself with the book. ;) Must have been a lot of work.
    - throwaway7645 10y ago
      Nim's idea is great, but the implementation and doc aren't currently at a place where someone like me that isn't ac advanced programmer could efficiently utilize. I read the opening chapter last year though and it is really well written and clear. I'd really like to see Crystal, Nim, or Red take off.
  - camus2 10y ago
    A language is as good as its libraries are. Do you provide libs for IOT? WebDev? games? People say, Go is successful because it's backed by Google, no, it's successful because its std lib has a socket and an http server. Focus on a niche, be successful in that niche and people will try to use it for everything else.
    - arc776 10y ago
      Webdev and games are fairly well covered, not sure about IOT but as far as embedded goes I know people are using it on arduino & RPi. Check out the stdlib: http://nim-lang.org/docs/lib.html http://nim-lang.org/docs/lib.html Some interesting projects related to the above: Webdev frameworks: https://github.com/dom96/jester https://github.com/dom96/jester https://flyx.github.io/emerald/ https://flyx.github.io/emerald/ https://github.com/onionhammer/nim-templates.git https://github.com/onionhammer/nim-templates.git Gamedev: Urho3D game engine wrapper: https://github.com/3dicc/Urhonimo https://github.com/3dicc/Urhonimo Nim GLSL framework (allows writing GLSL in Nim, meaning you can use metaprogramming in GLSL): https://github.com/yglukhov/nimsl https://github.com/yglukhov/nimsl Roguelike api: https://github.com/Vladar4/libtcod-nim/ https://github.com/Vladar4/libtcod-nim/ SFML lib: https://github.com/BlaXpirit/nim-csfml https://github.com/BlaXpirit/nim-csfml SDL lib: https://github.com/PMunch/SDLGamelib https://github.com/PMunch/SDLGamelib High level glfw wrapper: https://github.com/ephja/nim-glfw https://github.com/ephja/nim-glfw Chipmonk wrapper: https://github.com/fowlmouth/nimrod-chipmunk/ https://github.com/fowlmouth/nimrod-chipmunk/ Blog on writing a 2D platformer in Nim: https://hookrace.net/blog/writing-a-2d-platform-game-in-nim-with-sdl2/ https://hookrace.net/blog/writing-a-2d-platform-game-in-nim-... Blog on making a JS NES emulator in Nim: https://hookrace.net/nimes/ https://hookrace.net/nimes/
    - pathsjs 10y ago
      There is a (very minimal) HTTP server in the stdlib. It can be used for very quick prototyping. It can easily be wrapped in a more usable API, for instance I have made mine: https://github.com/andreaferretti/rosencrantz https://github.com/andreaferretti/rosencrantz
    - ilaksh 10y ago
      webdev https://github.com/dom96/jester https://github.com/dom96/jester Nim's standard lib also has sockets and http. Nim's niche is clean and fast code, with strong C/C++ interop and metaprogramming. Run 'nimble search game' to get a list like this (I did not copy and paste the whole list): libtcod-nim: url: git://github.com/Vladar4/libtcod-nim/ (git) tags: roguelike, game, library, engine, sdl, opengl, glsl description: Wrapper of the libtcod library for the Nim language. license: zlib website: https://github.com/Vladar4/libtcod-nim https://github.com/Vladar4/libtcod-nim nimgame: url: git://github.com/Vladar4/nimgame/ (git) tags: game, engine, sdl description: Simple 2D game engine for Nim language. license: MIT website: https://github.com/Vladar4/nimgame https://github.com/Vladar4/nimgame sfml: url: git://github.com/fowlmouth/nimrod-sfml/ (git) tags: game, library, opengl description: High level OpenGL-based Game Library license: MIT website: https://github.com/fowlmouth/nimrod-sfml https://github.com/fowlmouth/nimrod-sfml enet: url: git://github.com/fowlmouth/nimrod-enet/ (git) tags: game, networking, udp description: Wrapper for ENet UDP networking library license: MIT website: https://github.com/fowlmouth/nimrod-enet https://github.com/fowlmouth/nimrod-enet fowltek: url: git://github.com/fowlmouth/nimlibs/ (git) tags: game, opengl, wrappers, library, assorted description: A collection of reusable modules and wrappers. license: MIT website: https://github.com/fowlmouth/nimlibs https://github.com/fowlmouth/nimlibs nimrod-glfw: url: git://github.com/rafaelvasco/nimrod-glfw/ (git) tags: library, glfw, opengl, windowing, game description: Nim bindings for GLFW library. license: MIT website: https://github.com/rafaelvasco/nimrod-glfw https://github.com/rafaelvasco/nimrod-glfw chipmunk: url: git://github.com/fowlmouth/nimrod-chipmunk/ (git) tags: library, physics, game description: Bindings for Chipmunk2D 6.x physics library (for backwards compatibility) license: MIT website: https://github.com/fowlmouth/nimrod-chipmunk https://github.com/fowlmouth/nimrod-chipmunk chipmunk6: url: git://github.com/fowlmouth/nimrod-chipmunk/ (git) tags: library, physics, game description: Bindings for Chipmunk2D 6.x physics library license: MIT website: https://github.com/fowlmouth/nimrod-chipmunk https://github.com/fowlmouth/nimrod-chipmunk nim-glfw: url: git://github.com/EXetoC/nim-glfw/ (git) tags: library, glfw, opengl, windowing, game description: A high-level GLFW 3 wrapper license: MIT website: https://github.com/EXetoC/nim-glfw https://github.com/EXetoC/nim-glfw linagl: url: https://bitbucket.org/BitPuffin/linagl https://bitbucket.org/BitPuffin/linagl (hg) tags: library, opengl, math, game description: OpenGL math library license: CC0 website: https://bitbucket.org/BitPuffin/linagl https://bitbucket.org/BitPuffin/linagl
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- RX14 10y ago
  A similar language in this space which does seem to get a lot of support is Crystal.
  - throwaway7645 10y ago
    Agreed. I come from a python background, so Nim is more natural to me, but a lot of Rubyists (particularly those who don't do a lot of metaprogramming (my probably not accurate understanding is Ruby would probably be better here, please correct me)) are very excited to be able to wire what is essentially Ruby code that runs at near C speeds.
- arc776 10y ago
  Yeah, especially for things like gamedev. It's got the perfect mix of productivity and speed, yet allows complex metaprogramming and compile time evaluation. It does need more users, for sure, but I think it's a testament to the productivity of the language that people have done so much cool stuff already. Random example, metaprogramming & unit tests for glsl: https://github.com/yglukhov/nimsl https://github.com/yglukhov/nimsl

aaron-lebo 10y ago

The sad thing about it is for many situations, Nim would be a better fit than Rust just due to GC (this makes Nim conceptually simpler and higher-level in a lot of contexts). Yet they can't raise more than $3k in support (see the top of this link). Not sure what has to happen for adoption but it's a real gem of a language that just needs users.

dom96 10y ago
> Yet they can't raise more than $3k in support (see the top of this link). Unfortunately the image on that page is misleading. We have been getting ~$1300 every month for the duration of our BountySource campaign, which isn't bad. I think that the ~$3k value only includes direct non-recurring payments via BountySource. Sadly, it isn't enough for either of us to work full-time on Nim.
- aaron-lebo 10y ago
  Glad to hear it. Thanks for your work on the language and the book. For those interested in the language, it's worth your money: https://www.manning.com/books/nim-in-action https://www.manning.com/books/nim-in-action
  - dom96 10y ago
    No problem. Thank you for picking up a copy of my book, I'm glad you're enjoying it :)
- the_duke 10y ago
  I hope you are making at least a little bit of money for yourself with the book. ;) Must have been a lot of work.
  - throwaway7645 10y ago
    Nim's idea is great, but the implementation and doc aren't currently at a place where someone like me that isn't ac advanced programmer could efficiently utilize. I read the opening chapter last year though and it is really well written and clear. I'd really like to see Crystal, Nim, or Red take off.
- camus2 10y ago
  A language is as good as its libraries are. Do you provide libs for IOT? WebDev? games? People say, Go is successful because it's backed by Google, no, it's successful because its std lib has a socket and an http server. Focus on a niche, be successful in that niche and people will try to use it for everything else.
  - arc776 10y ago
    Webdev and games are fairly well covered, not sure about IOT but as far as embedded goes I know people are using it on arduino & RPi. Check out the stdlib: http://nim-lang.org/docs/lib.html http://nim-lang.org/docs/lib.html Some interesting projects related to the above: Webdev frameworks: https://github.com/dom96/jester https://github.com/dom96/jester https://flyx.github.io/emerald/ https://flyx.github.io/emerald/ https://github.com/onionhammer/nim-templates.git https://github.com/onionhammer/nim-templates.git Gamedev: Urho3D game engine wrapper: https://github.com/3dicc/Urhonimo https://github.com/3dicc/Urhonimo Nim GLSL framework (allows writing GLSL in Nim, meaning you can use metaprogramming in GLSL): https://github.com/yglukhov/nimsl https://github.com/yglukhov/nimsl Roguelike api: https://github.com/Vladar4/libtcod-nim/ https://github.com/Vladar4/libtcod-nim/ SFML lib: https://github.com/BlaXpirit/nim-csfml https://github.com/BlaXpirit/nim-csfml SDL lib: https://github.com/PMunch/SDLGamelib https://github.com/PMunch/SDLGamelib High level glfw wrapper: https://github.com/ephja/nim-glfw https://github.com/ephja/nim-glfw Chipmonk wrapper: https://github.com/fowlmouth/nimrod-chipmunk/ https://github.com/fowlmouth/nimrod-chipmunk/ Blog on writing a 2D platformer in Nim: https://hookrace.net/blog/writing-a-2d-platform-game-in-nim-with-sdl2/ https://hookrace.net/blog/writing-a-2d-platform-game-in-nim-... Blog on making a JS NES emulator in Nim: https://hookrace.net/nimes/ https://hookrace.net/nimes/
  - pathsjs 10y ago
    There is a (very minimal) HTTP server in the stdlib. It can be used for very quick prototyping. It can easily be wrapped in a more usable API, for instance I have made mine: https://github.com/andreaferretti/rosencrantz https://github.com/andreaferretti/rosencrantz
  - ilaksh 10y ago
    webdev https://github.com/dom96/jester https://github.com/dom96/jester Nim's standard lib also has sockets and http. Nim's niche is clean and fast code, with strong C/C++ interop and metaprogramming. Run 'nimble search game' to get a list like this (I did not copy and paste the whole list): libtcod-nim: url: git://github.com/Vladar4/libtcod-nim/ (git) tags: roguelike, game, library, engine, sdl, opengl, glsl description: Wrapper of the libtcod library for the Nim language. license: zlib website: https://github.com/Vladar4/libtcod-nim https://github.com/Vladar4/libtcod-nim nimgame: url: git://github.com/Vladar4/nimgame/ (git) tags: game, engine, sdl description: Simple 2D game engine for Nim language. license: MIT website: https://github.com/Vladar4/nimgame https://github.com/Vladar4/nimgame sfml: url: git://github.com/fowlmouth/nimrod-sfml/ (git) tags: game, library, opengl description: High level OpenGL-based Game Library license: MIT website: https://github.com/fowlmouth/nimrod-sfml https://github.com/fowlmouth/nimrod-sfml enet: url: git://github.com/fowlmouth/nimrod-enet/ (git) tags: game, networking, udp description: Wrapper for ENet UDP networking library license: MIT website: https://github.com/fowlmouth/nimrod-enet https://github.com/fowlmouth/nimrod-enet fowltek: url: git://github.com/fowlmouth/nimlibs/ (git) tags: game, opengl, wrappers, library, assorted description: A collection of reusable modules and wrappers. license: MIT website: https://github.com/fowlmouth/nimlibs https://github.com/fowlmouth/nimlibs nimrod-glfw: url: git://github.com/rafaelvasco/nimrod-glfw/ (git) tags: library, glfw, opengl, windowing, game description: Nim bindings for GLFW library. license: MIT website: https://github.com/rafaelvasco/nimrod-glfw https://github.com/rafaelvasco/nimrod-glfw chipmunk: url: git://github.com/fowlmouth/nimrod-chipmunk/ (git) tags: library, physics, game description: Bindings for Chipmunk2D 6.x physics library (for backwards compatibility) license: MIT website: https://github.com/fowlmouth/nimrod-chipmunk https://github.com/fowlmouth/nimrod-chipmunk chipmunk6: url: git://github.com/fowlmouth/nimrod-chipmunk/ (git) tags: library, physics, game description: Bindings for Chipmunk2D 6.x physics library license: MIT website: https://github.com/fowlmouth/nimrod-chipmunk https://github.com/fowlmouth/nimrod-chipmunk nim-glfw: url: git://github.com/EXetoC/nim-glfw/ (git) tags: library, glfw, opengl, windowing, game description: A high-level GLFW 3 wrapper license: MIT website: https://github.com/EXetoC/nim-glfw https://github.com/EXetoC/nim-glfw linagl: url: https://bitbucket.org/BitPuffin/linagl https://bitbucket.org/BitPuffin/linagl (hg) tags: library, opengl, math, game description: OpenGL math library license: CC0 website: https://bitbucket.org/BitPuffin/linagl https://bitbucket.org/BitPuffin/linagl
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RX14 10y ago
A similar language in this space which does seem to get a lot of support is Crystal.
- throwaway7645 10y ago
  Agreed. I come from a python background, so Nim is more natural to me, but a lot of Rubyists (particularly those who don't do a lot of metaprogramming (my probably not accurate understanding is Ruby would probably be better here, please correct me)) are very excited to be able to wire what is essentially Ruby code that runs at near C speeds.
arc776 10y ago
Yeah, especially for things like gamedev. It's got the perfect mix of productivity and speed, yet allows complex metaprogramming and compile time evaluation. It does need more users, for sure, but I think it's a testament to the productivity of the language that people have done so much cool stuff already. Random example, metaprogramming & unit tests for glsl: https://github.com/yglukhov/nimsl https://github.com/yglukhov/nimsl