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upvote for the interesting idea. To your knowledge is there any IDE out there with such a feature?

wruza 10y ago
Nope. At least my annual efforts to dig into that direction always fail. It seems, that there is something: literal programming, html-based prolog posted here recently (someone please help to recall its name). But it is not exactly that. And it always contains esoterics under the hood. I want C, C++, Perl, Java, anything mainstream; not Prolog. I'm too busy and too single to make prototype on my own (and more related ideas on top of that in thoughts.txt). I've posted this in forum comments for years, and sometimes got critics that made me temporarily think it is just another view on existing techniques (as of company-wide, not person-wide). Now I run the company and this got only more demand. Honestly, maybe I'm just doing existing things wrong, idk.
- alistproducer2 10y ago
  I could see this being an eclipse or notepad++ plug in.
- ilaksh 10y ago
  http://projectured.org http://projectured.org https://www.jetbrains.com/mps/ https://www.jetbrains.com/mps/ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structure_editor https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structure_editor https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intentional_programming https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intentional_programming https://martinfowler.com/bliki/ProjectionalEditing.html https://martinfowler.com/bliki/ProjectionalEditing.html https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12205757 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12205757
  - wruza 10y ago
    Word 'Jetbrains' in this list looks very promising, I'll definitely give it a try on spare time. Thanks!
- MarisaKirisame 10y ago
  The html based prolog thing you mention is probably eve.
  - wruza 10y ago
    Right, http://witheve.com/ http://witheve.com/
gohrt 10y ago
Charles Simonyi has been trying for over 20 years https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/publication/the-death-of-computer-languages-the-birth-of-intentional-programming/ https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/publication/the-dea... http://www.intentsoft.com/us/ http://www.intentsoft.com/us/ <-- in "stealth mode" for 10 years!
TeMPOraL 10y ago
Closest aspects I saw that touch this idea: - automatic refactors in Java IDEs, especially "rename" - they understand what you mean by "this variable" or "this function", at least most of the time - Paredit mode in Emacs, for working with Lisp code; if you learn it, you start feeling you're actually working with a tree, and not its textual representation

wruza 10y ago

Nope. At least my annual efforts to dig into that direction always fail. It seems, that there is something: literal programming, html-based prolog posted here recently (someone please help to recall its name). But it is not exactly that. And it always contains esoterics under the hood. I want C, C++, Perl, Java, anything mainstream; not Prolog. I'm too busy and too single to make prototype on my own (and more related ideas on top of that in thoughts.txt). I've posted this in forum comments for years, and sometimes got critics that made me temporarily think it is just another view on existing techniques (as of company-wide, not person-wide). Now I run the company and this got only more demand. Honestly, maybe I'm just doing existing things wrong, idk.

alistproducer2 10y ago
I could see this being an eclipse or notepad++ plug in.
ilaksh 10y ago
http://projectured.org http://projectured.org https://www.jetbrains.com/mps/ https://www.jetbrains.com/mps/ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structure_editor https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structure_editor https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intentional_programming https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intentional_programming https://martinfowler.com/bliki/ProjectionalEditing.html https://martinfowler.com/bliki/ProjectionalEditing.html https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12205757 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12205757
- wruza 10y ago
  Word 'Jetbrains' in this list looks very promising, I'll definitely give it a try on spare time. Thanks!
MarisaKirisame 10y ago
The html based prolog thing you mention is probably eve.
- wruza 10y ago
  Right, http://witheve.com/ http://witheve.com/

gohrt 10y ago

Charles Simonyi has been trying for over 20 years https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/publication/the-death-of-computer-languages-the-birth-of-intentional-programming/ https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/publication/the-dea... http://www.intentsoft.com/us/ http://www.intentsoft.com/us/ <-- in "stealth mode" for 10 years!

TeMPOraL 10y ago

Closest aspects I saw that touch this idea: - automatic refactors in Java IDEs, especially "rename" - they understand what you mean by "this variable" or "this function", at least most of the time - Paredit mode in Emacs, for working with Lisp code; if you learn it, you start feeling you're actually working with a tree, and not its textual representation