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Looks like I'm going to take the subway from now on.

l3m0ndr0p 10y ago
NYC Police can also search you without a warrant before you enter the subway. It's illegal, but if you say no, you cannot enter the subway. If you say no & continue to enter, you will be arrested. You'll need to look for an alternative entrance. NYC is an shining example of a police state. It's getting worse each day & nobody cares, except me.
jdavis703 10y ago
Someone earlier made a now dead, but sensationalistic comment about how in some cities the transit police can search you before entering the subway, and if you refuse you can't enter (though usually you can enter from an entrance or station without the checkpoint). I've even seen TSA stationed inside of busy subway stations, thankfully they were only gruffly and inefficiently redirecting passengers, but weren't doing body scans or pat downs.
- danso 10y ago
  I believe this is the way that it is in New York, at least when I lived there, unless the city relinquished its powers on this. Long reddit thread here: https://www.reddit.com/r/nyc/comments/1dm5fu/what_are_my_rights_regarding_random_subway_bag/ https://www.reddit.com/r/nyc/comments/1dm5fu/what_are_my_rig...
bsilvereagle 10y ago
I don't think riding the subway fixes the problem of determining where you're picked up and where you're dropped off (which this rule addresses). If you have a prepaid pass you use it when you board, at the minimum, your subway entrance terminal is known. If your phone wi-fi is on, your MAC can be sniffed at entrance and exit. Similar with Bluetooth. NYC subway stations are blanketed in cameras. You'll be on film entering and exiting. I'm not able to find it, but 60 Minutes (or similar) interviewed the NYC chief of police and he was claiming most surface streets have near full camera coverage in some capacity between government & private actors. Using Uber/Lyft arguably gives you less time on camera in NYC. Edit: `"That's the world we're living in now. Any street, any incident in New York City you get to -- most of the time -- that gets captured on video surveillance," New York City Police Commissioner James O'Neill said at a press conference on Monday.` http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ny-nj-bombings/more-8-000-cameras-helped-snare-bomb-suspect-ahmad-rahami-n650891 http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ny-nj-bombings/more-8-000-c...

NYC Police can also search you without a warrant before you enter the subway. It's illegal, but if you say no, you cannot enter the subway. If you say no & continue to enter, you will be arrested. You'll need to look for an alternative entrance. NYC is an shining example of a police state. It's getting worse each day & nobody cares, except me.

jdavis703 10y ago

Someone earlier made a now dead, but sensationalistic comment about how in some cities the transit police can search you before entering the subway, and if you refuse you can't enter (though usually you can enter from an entrance or station without the checkpoint). I've even seen TSA stationed inside of busy subway stations, thankfully they were only gruffly and inefficiently redirecting passengers, but weren't doing body scans or pat downs.

danso 10y ago
I believe this is the way that it is in New York, at least when I lived there, unless the city relinquished its powers on this. Long reddit thread here: https://www.reddit.com/r/nyc/comments/1dm5fu/what_are_my_rights_regarding_random_subway_bag/ https://www.reddit.com/r/nyc/comments/1dm5fu/what_are_my_rig...

bsilvereagle 10y ago

I don't think riding the subway fixes the problem of determining where you're picked up and where you're dropped off (which this rule addresses). If you have a prepaid pass you use it when you board, at the minimum, your subway entrance terminal is known. If your phone wi-fi is on, your MAC can be sniffed at entrance and exit. Similar with Bluetooth. NYC subway stations are blanketed in cameras. You'll be on film entering and exiting. I'm not able to find it, but 60 Minutes (or similar) interviewed the NYC chief of police and he was claiming most surface streets have near full camera coverage in some capacity between government & private actors. Using Uber/Lyft arguably gives you less time on camera in NYC. Edit: `"That's the world we're living in now. Any street, any incident in New York City you get to -- most of the time -- that gets captured on video surveillance," New York City Police Commissioner James O'Neill said at a press conference on Monday.` http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ny-nj-bombings/more-8-000-cameras-helped-snare-bomb-suspect-ahmad-rahami-n650891 http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ny-nj-bombings/more-8-000-c...