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Vinci and Bouygues, two french companies in the construction business with a long history of corruption all over the world including Russia (qatar, turkmenistan

Vinci and Bouygues, two french companies in the construction business with a long history of corruption all over the world including Russia (qatar, turkmenistan, french pentagon, cambodia airports, notre dames des landes, ... just to cite a few of the most recent). Both have ties with previous France president and have pointed for shady practices from illegal construction to use of migrant as slaves and forced labour. The attribution of the sarcophagus contract to those two was suspicious at the times. It's not unheard of in Vinci and Bouygues cases that whistleblowers and witness tend to die or be sued into oblivion using SLAPPs. AFAIK no one came forward to speak and the deal went on. Seems to be a nice engineering work though, sadly it funnels money to rich family with poor ethics and practices.

bengalister 10y ago
"Notre Dame des landes" there are no proofs at all, only suspicions coming from environmental extremists whom often lie to achieve their goal, not really trustworthy people. I am not saying that the 2 companies are clean, but let's face it the construction business is corrupted or using un-ethical practices (like agreement on price between competitors) almost all over the world. For instance, you would expect the construction business to be clean in a country like Canada which is often praised for being a non-corrupted country but at least in Québec it is owned by mobster overpricing every project.
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gpvos 10y ago
The pyramids were also built with slave labour. Sad that we haven't progressed very far since then though.
- FoeNyx 10y ago
  > The pyramids were also built with slave labour. Last time I read about this subject, historians and egyptologists were still having some disputes about this.
  - JoeAltmaier 10y ago
    Yeah they discovered bakeries, breweries, family housing etc at the sites of pyramid construction. Or maybe being a slave was a whole different thing back then...
    - mikro2nd 10y ago
      Well,... slaves still had to eat, drink, make more little slaves (i.e. have families) and so on, so keeping them alive and reasonably well was probably a good thing to do. Dead slaves can't reasonably do all that heavy lifting.
  - nradov 10y ago
    Supposedly the pyramid construction crews had a core of several thousand skilled tradesmen who received salaries, plus a larger group of poor seasonal laborers who worked in lieu of paying taxes. They weren't exactly slaves, but if they didn't have the cash to pay their taxes then they had to work. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_pyramid_construction_techniques#Great_Pyramid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_pyramid_construction_...

bengalister 10y ago

"Notre Dame des landes" there are no proofs at all, only suspicions coming from environmental extremists whom often lie to achieve their goal, not really trustworthy people. I am not saying that the 2 companies are clean, but let's face it the construction business is corrupted or using un-ethical practices (like agreement on price between competitors) almost all over the world. For instance, you would expect the construction business to be clean in a country like Canada which is often praised for being a non-corrupted country but at least in Québec it is owned by mobster overpricing every project.

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gpvos 10y ago

The pyramids were also built with slave labour. Sad that we haven't progressed very far since then though.

FoeNyx 10y ago
> The pyramids were also built with slave labour. Last time I read about this subject, historians and egyptologists were still having some disputes about this.
- JoeAltmaier 10y ago
  Yeah they discovered bakeries, breweries, family housing etc at the sites of pyramid construction. Or maybe being a slave was a whole different thing back then...
  - mikro2nd 10y ago
    Well,... slaves still had to eat, drink, make more little slaves (i.e. have families) and so on, so keeping them alive and reasonably well was probably a good thing to do. Dead slaves can't reasonably do all that heavy lifting.
- nradov 10y ago
  Supposedly the pyramid construction crews had a core of several thousand skilled tradesmen who received salaries, plus a larger group of poor seasonal laborers who worked in lieu of paying taxes. They weren't exactly slaves, but if they didn't have the cash to pay their taxes then they had to work. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_pyramid_construction_techniques#Great_Pyramid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_pyramid_construction_...