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Just another step to the complete infantilization of citizens by the government. If you can't pour a liquid into another container, you have no business being o
by hydrogen18 10y ago
Just another step to the complete infantilization of citizens by the government. If you can't pour a liquid into another container, you have no business being outdoors.
- mikeash 10y agoI will note that about 13 million Americans already live in states where it's illegal to pump your own gasoline.
- jessriedel 10y agoYes, and this does in fact infantalize people. But it's an unintended consequence of it's functional purpose: job creation (regardless of the stated justification for the law).
- vkou 10y agoThat's a jobs program.
- bluead 10y agoIt's only partly a jobs program. Really, the jobs are mostly a side effect. Jersey people love their full service stations and are very protective of it. In and out, don't get out of the car, don't mess up your precious hair and hands dealing with the elements or the pump, back on the road. I don't identify with the attitude at all, but it's a real part of the culture. I've been chased back into my car by attendants more than once in Jersey. Nowadays I typically fill up before crossing state lines and drive across the state nonstop, even though the gas tax is lower in Jersey.
- scrumper 10y agoI can understand not bothering to drive to Jersey just to get gas (though it is cheaper), but spending more to fill up before crossing the border solely to avoid the experience of someone else pumping gas for you seems a little extreme. Is there more to your dislike of NJ gas stations? Whatever the reason, I respect you for having the courage of your convictions, especially this time of year!
- hx87 10y agoMaybe bluead just doesn't want to deal with people? I go out of my way to avoid full service for that reason too.
- vkou 10y agoOregon is a full-service state. Washington is not. I strongly doubt that there is a significant cultural difference between the two, in terms of car culture.
- Gibbon1 10y agoOnce somewhat strung out from driving I bailed on an Oregon gas station and drove another ten miles into California to pump my gas. My blotto California brain went 'no! no one is touching my car!'
- rlpb 10y agoOn the other hand, when strapped for cash, many citizens will stop doing it. You can make it illegal to drive with that tank empty, but that still won't make many citizens do it. The environment is better off this way.
- derefr 10y agoPerhaps they could mandate another additive to diesel that gives it a very apparent coloured plume in its exhaust; and then another additive to AdBlue that oxidizes/reduces that additive. Then you just tell police to pull over anyone with black fumes coming from their cars.
- bluead 10y agoThere's no need for any of this. DEF diesel engines already go into limp mode not long after the fluid runs dry (after ignoring many warnings). There are sensors such that just replacing with any arbitrary diesel-compatible fluid won't fool it (thought that would be stupid to do). And most states have annual inspections that include emissions, you would not pass with a dry Adblue tank. No need for dramatic exhaust; the cops can run your plates and see your inspection is expired.
- Dylan16807 10y agoHaha inspections, you're funny.
- hydrogen18 10y agoThat one is simple, just make the vehicle not run when certain conditions aren't met. Most diesel trucks already do this from the factory, if you don't follow the regen. cycle the truck just turns off.
- rlpb 10y agoThat wouldn't sell well. Manufacturers would end up doing more to make sure it doesn't run out. This is my point - read back up the thread.