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> "China bashing" is simply a euphemism for being critical on china I understand it as being overly or gratuitously critical of China but of course, it's hard

> "China bashing" is simply a euphemism for being critical on china I understand it as being overly or gratuitously critical of China but of course, it's hard to define objectively. Personally, I feel like most American media is biased against China but I hold a relatively positive view of China.

seanmcdirmid 10y ago
Try living in china for a few years, once the honey moon is over :). Dealing with the air pollution, GFW, hideous traffic, and currency controls will wear a guy down.
- olalonde 10y ago
  I lived there for 6 years and my wife is from Guangxi. Of course China isn't perfect but it isn't as bad as most Western media depict it to be. For one, it isn't a dictatorship as most people in the West seem to think it is. I certainly don't support the censorship but I quite like their foreign policy for example.
  - xiaoma 10y ago
    Seriously? Since 1960, China has invaded India, Vietnam, and less successfully Russia. In all three cases, China started it. It's also been threatening to invade Taiwan for decades, despite Taiwan never having been part of the PRC based on the historical claims going back to the Qing Dynasty. In the south China sea, rather than accept a treaty that all neighboring countries including China signed, China prefers to go by an old Chinese map. Rather than accept the international ruling upholding the treaty, China condemned it and increased their militarization of international waters. To the best of my knowledge, China has territorial disputes with every single one of its many neighbors, though they may back off their claim to 20% of Tajikistan since Tajikstan ceded just under 1% of its territory a few years ago. I can see why a Chinese citizen might like their foreign policy, but it sure is rough for their neighbors: https://www.facebook.com/notes/tarek-fatah/chinas-border-disputes-with-18-countries-imperialism-or-expansionist-designs/10153551812290247/ https://www.facebook.com/notes/tarek-fatah/chinas-border-dis...
  - seanmcdirmid 10y ago
    China is actually worse than the western media portrays. Yes, it isn't a dictatorship, the opposite actually: rule of law is quite messed up, there is a lot of inequality, the Maoist pratices that we were all convinced were over rear their head from time to time to remind you that china is still very "different." Westerners would have a more negative perception of china if they read/watched more of the Chinese media. It is so crass and biased (in a way western media could ever get away with) that you can't help but think things are very messed up. My 9 years just ended. Granted, Beijing is more of a difficult situation than southern china, I could handle living in Guilin, liuzhou, or even Nanning (well, the latter is maybe too hot).

seanmcdirmid 10y ago

Try living in china for a few years, once the honey moon is over :). Dealing with the air pollution, GFW, hideous traffic, and currency controls will wear a guy down.

olalonde 10y ago
I lived there for 6 years and my wife is from Guangxi. Of course China isn't perfect but it isn't as bad as most Western media depict it to be. For one, it isn't a dictatorship as most people in the West seem to think it is. I certainly don't support the censorship but I quite like their foreign policy for example.
- xiaoma 10y ago
  Seriously? Since 1960, China has invaded India, Vietnam, and less successfully Russia. In all three cases, China started it. It's also been threatening to invade Taiwan for decades, despite Taiwan never having been part of the PRC based on the historical claims going back to the Qing Dynasty. In the south China sea, rather than accept a treaty that all neighboring countries including China signed, China prefers to go by an old Chinese map. Rather than accept the international ruling upholding the treaty, China condemned it and increased their militarization of international waters. To the best of my knowledge, China has territorial disputes with every single one of its many neighbors, though they may back off their claim to 20% of Tajikistan since Tajikstan ceded just under 1% of its territory a few years ago. I can see why a Chinese citizen might like their foreign policy, but it sure is rough for their neighbors: https://www.facebook.com/notes/tarek-fatah/chinas-border-disputes-with-18-countries-imperialism-or-expansionist-designs/10153551812290247/ https://www.facebook.com/notes/tarek-fatah/chinas-border-dis...
- seanmcdirmid 10y ago
  China is actually worse than the western media portrays. Yes, it isn't a dictatorship, the opposite actually: rule of law is quite messed up, there is a lot of inequality, the Maoist pratices that we were all convinced were over rear their head from time to time to remind you that china is still very "different." Westerners would have a more negative perception of china if they read/watched more of the Chinese media. It is so crass and biased (in a way western media could ever get away with) that you can't help but think things are very messed up. My 9 years just ended. Granted, Beijing is more of a difficult situation than southern china, I could handle living in Guilin, liuzhou, or even Nanning (well, the latter is maybe too hot).