I have to assume most people don't really see this - if it was as significant enough problem, someone would've gotten frustrated enough and fixed it. Or at leas

I have to assume most people don't really see this - if it was as significant enough problem, someone would've gotten frustrated enough and fixed it. Or at least made enough noise about it :) Without any hints from the system, though, I find I'm not really interested in doing the deep dive needed to figure out the real cause. If it was just a little more frequent - so that it became more impediment than nuisance - I'd likely end up doing so. In my case, I'm sure some of the problems are self inflicted. I got away from NetworkManager because of the same issue. I tried wicd, and am currently just using direct configuration in /etc/network/interfaces. Since it still occurs and presents the same way, it seems to suggest either wpa_supplicant or the driver itself is at the root of it.