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>I'm not overweight, so maybe I don't have the right perspective on this, but how terrible could "having a doctor tell you that you're overweight" be? Like, the

by Fomite 10y ago

>I'm not overweight, so maybe I don't have the right perspective on this, but how terrible could "having a doctor tell you that you're overweight" be? Like, the only context I can understand this quote is that "Have someone tell you you're overweight" is some sort of grievous injury, and not just trivially inconvenient." In my experience? It's a drain, and a good way to encourage me not to go see the doctor. Because it's every time I go to the doctor for literally my entire life. I have never not gotten a 10 minute lecture, including when I was on a varsity swim team. Beyond that, it's a lecture that comes even when it's not the problem. In the not so recent past, we discussed my weight for 15 minutes...and the active pertussis infection I had for 5. If you have a chronic condition, you're almost certainly going to have your doctor tie it to your weight. And here's the thing - fat people know we're fat.

pliny 10y ago
When you put it like that, it does sound very unpleasant.
- Fomite 10y ago
  It is. The last post also ignored some larger problems - like fat people essentially having medical problems missed because doctors attribute it to their weight, or the exact opposite - skinny people not getting diabetic tests or cardiac stress tests because they're skinny.
  - nradov 10y ago
    The blood tests that are part of most medical insurance wellness plans now do check for diabetes symptoms. If your blood glucose or A1c is above the reference range then it will get flagged for your doctor as a possible diabetes case regardless of whether you're fat or skinny.
spectrum1234 10y ago
The solution doctors should provide starts with mental health (motivation, etc), not physical solution. This is the biggest problem in health care!!! Note that the US government is doing nothing to change this. It's almost illegal for doctors to "prescribe" mental solutions over physical. Everyone wants a quick fix but the solution starts in the brain. If you don't want the $50 savings then save the .125% of your salary and don't do it. Simple. Don't act like you don't have a choice.
- firebones 10y ago
  In a just world, this would be at the top of the thread.
vectorwhat 10y ago
My prejudice (I'm putting it out there to be honest, not judgmental): In general I have little patience for big people who eat poorly (I couldn't care less if someone exercises or not) because I think it's so easy to be the right weight if you cut stupid calories. Easy for me to say, I'm 6'1''. When I was 20 I weighed 165 lb, I'm 180 now. I smoke when I want, stuff my face with whatever food I want. My doctors cheer my good health. However: I really despise a doctor talking about anything that isn't on my agenda. My health, my money, I lead the convo. For me a doctor is someone, probably not as intelligent as me (or most people on this forum) who has domain knowledge and access to medical services I need. Cut the crap and give me the service I'm paying for not a bloody lecture. Dentists can stop with the floss already. I know, I don't care.
- fucking_tragedy 10y ago
  > For me a doctor is someone, probably not as intelligent as me (or most people on this forum) You might want to revisit this opinion.
  - vectorwhat 10y ago
    Why? A medical degree is mostly a marathon of hard work and dedication. Laudable. I couldn't do it. But does it take wits? The medical researcher probably. The person who figures out the dosage, maybe. But the person who through rote learning knows of the top of their heads the proper dose? Meh. The people on this forum probably average 130 IQ. Not everyone here could do a medical degree. But most are probably smarter than their doctors.
    - darpa_escapee 10y ago
      What is programming other than learning through rote? I disagree. I believe pretty much anyone has the ability to fill the role of a web developer if they take the time on their own to learn the skills. Not many people have the intelligence, focus and competence it takes to be in medicine.
  - edejong 10y ago

by Fomite 10y ago

pliny 10y ago

When you put it like that, it does sound very unpleasant.

Fomite 10y ago
It is. The last post also ignored some larger problems - like fat people essentially having medical problems missed because doctors attribute it to their weight, or the exact opposite - skinny people not getting diabetic tests or cardiac stress tests because they're skinny.
- nradov 10y ago
  The blood tests that are part of most medical insurance wellness plans now do check for diabetes symptoms. If your blood glucose or A1c is above the reference range then it will get flagged for your doctor as a possible diabetes case regardless of whether you're fat or skinny.

spectrum1234 10y ago

The solution doctors should provide starts with mental health (motivation, etc), not physical solution. This is the biggest problem in health care!!! Note that the US government is doing nothing to change this. It's almost illegal for doctors to "prescribe" mental solutions over physical. Everyone wants a quick fix but the solution starts in the brain. If you don't want the $50 savings then save the .125% of your salary and don't do it. Simple. Don't act like you don't have a choice.

firebones 10y ago
In a just world, this would be at the top of the thread.

vectorwhat 10y ago

My prejudice (I'm putting it out there to be honest, not judgmental): In general I have little patience for big people who eat poorly (I couldn't care less if someone exercises or not) because I think it's so easy to be the right weight if you cut stupid calories. Easy for me to say, I'm 6'1''. When I was 20 I weighed 165 lb, I'm 180 now. I smoke when I want, stuff my face with whatever food I want. My doctors cheer my good health. However: I really despise a doctor talking about anything that isn't on my agenda. My health, my money, I lead the convo. For me a doctor is someone, probably not as intelligent as me (or most people on this forum) who has domain knowledge and access to medical services I need. Cut the crap and give me the service I'm paying for not a bloody lecture. Dentists can stop with the floss already. I know, I don't care.

fucking_tragedy 10y ago
> For me a doctor is someone, probably not as intelligent as me (or most people on this forum) You might want to revisit this opinion.
- vectorwhat 10y ago
  Why? A medical degree is mostly a marathon of hard work and dedication. Laudable. I couldn't do it. But does it take wits? The medical researcher probably. The person who figures out the dosage, maybe. But the person who through rote learning knows of the top of their heads the proper dose? Meh. The people on this forum probably average 130 IQ. Not everyone here could do a medical degree. But most are probably smarter than their doctors.
  - darpa_escapee 10y ago
    What is programming other than learning through rote? I disagree. I believe pretty much anyone has the ability to fill the role of a web developer if they take the time on their own to learn the skills. Not many people have the intelligence, focus and competence it takes to be in medicine.
- edejong 10y ago