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Only $10??? That is a lot of money for something that shouldn't be needed in the first place. I haven't spent $10 dollars on my phone since I bought a case for

Only $10??? That is a lot of money for something that shouldn't be needed in the first place. I haven't spent $10 dollars on my phone since I bought a case for it in 2013. Then again, I have expandable memory and a headphone jack (Galaxy Note 3).

nkkollaw 10y ago
Alright, so you spend $800 for a phone, and you're complaining that you can't spare $10? I'm not saying removing the headphone jack to make the phone a mm thinner wasn't a retarded move, but... Really? $10?
- ryao 10y ago
  I thought the removal was to recycle the space while making waterproofing easier.
  - _Codemonkeyism 10y ago
    The removal is to introduce a way to control which headphones are connected and to get license payments in the future.
    - chrischen 10y ago
      This statement is false.
    - flamedoge 10y ago
      The removal is to sell dongles
    - j2bax 10y ago
      Doubtful. My guess is within 1-2 generations max the iPhone will have USB C to follow the Macbook line.
  - nkkollaw 10y ago
    Ah, true. That was mentioned as well. It's amazing that people would pick an extra millimeter trimmed off or waterproofing over a headphone jack (I assume they did surveys..?).
- Freestyler_3 10y ago
  If I buy an $800 device, I make sure it does what I want it to do with the least amount of friction (add/replace my other hardware). What if I buy a router today and there is a company that sells routers with a nice gui, but all the rj45 jacks are removed and it requires a dongle on the power jack to be able to connect a rj45. (For some reason it comes with a dongle but that requires the router to run on batteries) Anywho, I am not the guy that is going to buy apple hardware anyway. So I don't really have any impact on apple if I don't buy anything.
  - nkkollaw 10y ago
    I'm buying a second-hand iPhone 6s instead of an iPhone 7 because of the headphone jack (mainly out of principle). It's just that I see so many comments arguing that dongles are expensive... The problem is not that they're expensive. I agree that they suck, but I can't possibly believe that people that can afford to spend $1000 on an iPhone Plus all of a sudden can't afford a $10 or $29 dongle.
    - Freestyler_3 10y ago
      Agreed, if you buy it then it is your own responsibility to know that it requires more than just the money for the phone. Then again, some people buy expensive cars and are surprised about the high price of spare parts. I guess many consumers like to pay a big amount of money for a single product, and not a big amount + 10 small amounts for a product that needs multiple other products during its life. Its like a phone case, we all wish it wasn't necessary to have one, but many people buy cases because the phone needs it to stay nice/safe. And I don't think there is a solution readily available that makes phone cases abundant for those people.
kalleboo 10y ago
Why bother with expandable memory if you haven't bought a memory card for it in over 3 years?
- legodt 10y ago
  Bad comparison, memory cards are a clear need (gotta have more storage space) and are not responses to poor design decisions (gotta counteract a port I use every day being taken away).
  - kalleboo 10y ago
    A clear need for you isn't a clear need for everyone. Maybe I have all my stuff in the cloud, so I don't "gotta have more storage space". Meanwhile I've been using Bluetooth headphones for a decade now, I have no need for the headphone port. Don't get me wrong, I'm no Apple fanboy. But the real injustice here is that they're clinging to their proprietary Lightning port instead of going with the standard USB-C. That is complete bullshit.
    - tdkl 10y ago
      > A clear need for you isn't a clear need for everyone. This goes both ways.
- Dylan16807 10y ago
  It matters less as phone storage finally drops below $1 per GB, but traditionally it was not fun to pay 5x as much as a good-quality microSD, and that's if they even have the option to put in enough in the first place.

nkkollaw 10y ago

Alright, so you spend $800 for a phone, and you're complaining that you can't spare $10? I'm not saying removing the headphone jack to make the phone a mm thinner wasn't a retarded move, but... Really? $10?

ryao 10y ago
I thought the removal was to recycle the space while making waterproofing easier.
- _Codemonkeyism 10y ago
  The removal is to introduce a way to control which headphones are connected and to get license payments in the future.
  - chrischen 10y ago
    This statement is false.
  - flamedoge 10y ago
    The removal is to sell dongles
  - j2bax 10y ago
    Doubtful. My guess is within 1-2 generations max the iPhone will have USB C to follow the Macbook line.
- nkkollaw 10y ago
  Ah, true. That was mentioned as well. It's amazing that people would pick an extra millimeter trimmed off or waterproofing over a headphone jack (I assume they did surveys..?).
Freestyler_3 10y ago
If I buy an $800 device, I make sure it does what I want it to do with the least amount of friction (add/replace my other hardware). What if I buy a router today and there is a company that sells routers with a nice gui, but all the rj45 jacks are removed and it requires a dongle on the power jack to be able to connect a rj45. (For some reason it comes with a dongle but that requires the router to run on batteries) Anywho, I am not the guy that is going to buy apple hardware anyway. So I don't really have any impact on apple if I don't buy anything.
- nkkollaw 10y ago
  I'm buying a second-hand iPhone 6s instead of an iPhone 7 because of the headphone jack (mainly out of principle). It's just that I see so many comments arguing that dongles are expensive... The problem is not that they're expensive. I agree that they suck, but I can't possibly believe that people that can afford to spend $1000 on an iPhone Plus all of a sudden can't afford a $10 or $29 dongle.
  - Freestyler_3 10y ago
    Agreed, if you buy it then it is your own responsibility to know that it requires more than just the money for the phone. Then again, some people buy expensive cars and are surprised about the high price of spare parts. I guess many consumers like to pay a big amount of money for a single product, and not a big amount + 10 small amounts for a product that needs multiple other products during its life. Its like a phone case, we all wish it wasn't necessary to have one, but many people buy cases because the phone needs it to stay nice/safe. And I don't think there is a solution readily available that makes phone cases abundant for those people.

kalleboo 10y ago

Why bother with expandable memory if you haven't bought a memory card for it in over 3 years?

legodt 10y ago
Bad comparison, memory cards are a clear need (gotta have more storage space) and are not responses to poor design decisions (gotta counteract a port I use every day being taken away).
- kalleboo 10y ago
  A clear need for you isn't a clear need for everyone. Maybe I have all my stuff in the cloud, so I don't "gotta have more storage space". Meanwhile I've been using Bluetooth headphones for a decade now, I have no need for the headphone port. Don't get me wrong, I'm no Apple fanboy. But the real injustice here is that they're clinging to their proprietary Lightning port instead of going with the standard USB-C. That is complete bullshit.
  - tdkl 10y ago
    > A clear need for you isn't a clear need for everyone. This goes both ways.
Dylan16807 10y ago
It matters less as phone storage finally drops below $1 per GB, but traditionally it was not fun to pay 5x as much as a good-quality microSD, and that's if they even have the option to put in enough in the first place.