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I hope the market punishes them for removing the ports we regularly use from the MacBook Pro so when I'm ready to buy a new one in a few years they have brought

by cracell 10y ago

I hope the market punishes them for removing the ports we regularly use from the MacBook Pro so when I'm ready to buy a new one in a few years they have brought them back. In particular the removal of the magsafe power connector is maddening. By far my favorite feature of Macbooks and they removed it because??

matthewmacleod 10y ago
The removed it because it was a proprietary port and felt that the market was better served in the long term by eliminating this kind of special case. I like MagSafe, but it's not really that big a deal.
- Alupis 10y ago
  > The removed it because it was a proprietary port Apple is not shy when it comes to using proprietary ports - so I don't really buy this argument. We can look at the iPhone 7 and it's proprietary non-USB connector as clear evidence they don't mind running proprietary connectors.
  - Bud 10y ago
    >Apple is not shy when it comes to using proprietary ports - so I don't really buy this argument. There was not a single proprietary port on the old MB Pro, except for MagSafe, which isn't really even a port, but instead a power interface. Zero.
    - Alupis 10y ago
      > There was not a single proprietary port on the old MB Pro, except for MagSafe So somehow that means Apple hates proprietary ports? Besides, the Thunderbolt ports might as well have been proprietary given the small number of non-apple devices that used them.
    - na85 10y ago
      I'm glad we agree there was a proprietary connector on that device.
- Washuu 10y ago
  MagSafe saved the brand "new" 15" MacBook Pro I bought last week, twice. Once when the young nephew grabbed the wire curious gently tugging it. Another when my mother hit the charger with her foot and sent it flying across the room. As well with the second case it also entirely prevented my mother from taking a nasty fall from tripping. For those that it is useful for it is a big deal.
matwood 10y ago
No, in a few years everything will be USB-C. The ports are gone for good.
- shams93 10y ago
  Yeah the devices are coming soon. I find it ironic that the new macbook pro works seemlessly with new google pixel devices, you can just plug in a usb-c cable between them, no dongles needed. If Apple wanted to be really bold they would have swapped lightening for usb-c so the new iphone and macbook pro could be connected with one simple cable.
  - matwood 10y ago
    Totally agree. I made a comment on the original MBP thread that Apple dropped the ball here by not releasing the iPhone 7 also as usb-c. I'll be shocked, and really wonder WTF, if the next iPhone is not usb-c.
    - marcoperaza 10y ago
      They're kind of in a tough spot there, having licensed so many lightning port accessories and headphones, that many of their customers have since spent so much money on. And to their credit, they created the lightning port before USB type-C even existed.
      - snovv_crash 10y ago
        Then why not a dongle? After all, that seems to be the solution for everything else...
- flamedoge 10y ago
  and a several more after, it might have no ports! all wireless! wireless power!
manarth 10y ago
In particular the removal of the magsafe power connector When USB-C removed the need for a dedicated power lead, I think that spelled the end for magsafe. Still, there's always this: https://griffintechnology.com/intl/breaksafe-magnetic-usb-c-power-cable https://griffintechnology.com/intl/breaksafe-magnetic-usb-c-...
- dblohm7 10y ago
  Or maybe this: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/branchusb/magneo-first-true-usb-c-magnetic-adapter https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/branchusb/magneo-first-...
  - andrei_says_ 10y ago
    This looks like the right approach, thanks for the link. However I still find the fact that I'd have to pay an extra $35 for an incredibly useful feature which apple decided to kill very unpleasant. Their product is not cheaper. So I end up subsidizing their stupidity. Or worse, their choice to not give a damn about my needs.

by cracell 10y ago

matthewmacleod 10y ago

The removed it because it was a proprietary port and felt that the market was better served in the long term by eliminating this kind of special case. I like MagSafe, but it's not really that big a deal.

Alupis 10y ago
> The removed it because it was a proprietary port Apple is not shy when it comes to using proprietary ports - so I don't really buy this argument. We can look at the iPhone 7 and it's proprietary non-USB connector as clear evidence they don't mind running proprietary connectors.
- Bud 10y ago
  >Apple is not shy when it comes to using proprietary ports - so I don't really buy this argument. There was not a single proprietary port on the old MB Pro, except for MagSafe, which isn't really even a port, but instead a power interface. Zero.
  - Alupis 10y ago
    > There was not a single proprietary port on the old MB Pro, except for MagSafe So somehow that means Apple hates proprietary ports? Besides, the Thunderbolt ports might as well have been proprietary given the small number of non-apple devices that used them.
  - na85 10y ago
    I'm glad we agree there was a proprietary connector on that device.
Washuu 10y ago
MagSafe saved the brand "new" 15" MacBook Pro I bought last week, twice. Once when the young nephew grabbed the wire curious gently tugging it. Another when my mother hit the charger with her foot and sent it flying across the room. As well with the second case it also entirely prevented my mother from taking a nasty fall from tripping. For those that it is useful for it is a big deal.

matwood 10y ago

No, in a few years everything will be USB-C. The ports are gone for good.

shams93 10y ago
Yeah the devices are coming soon. I find it ironic that the new macbook pro works seemlessly with new google pixel devices, you can just plug in a usb-c cable between them, no dongles needed. If Apple wanted to be really bold they would have swapped lightening for usb-c so the new iphone and macbook pro could be connected with one simple cable.
- matwood 10y ago
  Totally agree. I made a comment on the original MBP thread that Apple dropped the ball here by not releasing the iPhone 7 also as usb-c. I'll be shocked, and really wonder WTF, if the next iPhone is not usb-c.
  - marcoperaza 10y ago
    They're kind of in a tough spot there, having licensed so many lightning port accessories and headphones, that many of their customers have since spent so much money on. And to their credit, they created the lightning port before USB type-C even existed.
    - snovv_crash 10y ago
      Then why not a dongle? After all, that seems to be the solution for everything else...
flamedoge 10y ago
and a several more after, it might have no ports! all wireless! wireless power!

manarth 10y ago

In particular the removal of the magsafe power connector When USB-C removed the need for a dedicated power lead, I think that spelled the end for magsafe. Still, there's always this: https://griffintechnology.com/intl/breaksafe-magnetic-usb-c-power-cable https://griffintechnology.com/intl/breaksafe-magnetic-usb-c-...

dblohm7 10y ago
Or maybe this: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/branchusb/magneo-first-true-usb-c-magnetic-adapter https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/branchusb/magneo-first-...
- andrei_says_ 10y ago
  This looks like the right approach, thanks for the link. However I still find the fact that I'd have to pay an extra $35 for an incredibly useful feature which apple decided to kill very unpleasant. Their product is not cheaper. So I end up subsidizing their stupidity. Or worse, their choice to not give a damn about my needs.