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SoftGooFace: We can easily double your current salary. Engineer: Oh SoftGooFace: You don't have to worry about employment ever after Engineer: Oh Soft: We a

SoftGooFace: We can easily double your current salary. Engineer: Oh SoftGooFace: You don't have to worry about employment ever after Engineer: Oh Soft: We are so powerful, we can dump unwanted OS upgrades on people Goo: We are so powerful, people are terrified of linking to other sites Face: We are so powerful, even heads of state better watch out before criticizing us Engineer: Uh.. SoftGooFace: Every time someone makes a critical comment about your employer, you can look at your bank account and tell them to f-off Engineer: Uh.. SoftGooFace: And we open source everything Engineer: Oh, where do I sign up?

harry8 10y ago
And yet they underpay and also use their lobbying muscle/money to change laws to keep engineering pay down. Note the sheer desperation to keep the pay secret so it doesn't turn into an auction for scarce resources for engineering talent the way it does with lawyers, bankers, MBA's. If you're in it fore the money don't work for facebrick.
- wheelerwj 10y ago
  payment is relative. to the rest ofnthe world, all of the SV engineers looks grossly over paid.
  - hueving 10y ago
    > to the rest ofnthe world, all of the SV engineers looks grossly over paid. Only to people who don't understand economics. I know the salaries in NYC are high as well, but I understand the cost of living that drives that.
    - wheelerwj 10y ago
      no, even to people who understand economics. the only reason the cost of living is so high in SF is because of grossly over paid employees who drive up the cost of living. its a private little island of inflation.
  - herbst 10y ago
    Ive made a lower SV salary after my education in Bern Switzerland. I had to pay way less taxes, had benefits included, and cost of living was lower as well.
- rhizome 10y ago
  Lobbying to keep pay down? To what does this refer?
corv 10y ago
Open source is catnip for software engineers. It's worth remembering that ethics go beyond software rights.
pmlnr 10y ago
> open source everything Sure. Like they open sourced their Blu-Ray cold storage system. Oh, wait, if they do that, people will realize they should be sued for using the word "delete", since you can't remove data from Blu-Ray.
- cbr 10y ago
  The standard way to do this is to store the data encrypted, and store the key in something modifiable. Then when there's a delete you scramble the key.
  - xg15 10y ago
    So who is auditing Facebook, making sure they actually do that?

harry8 10y ago

And yet they underpay and also use their lobbying muscle/money to change laws to keep engineering pay down. Note the sheer desperation to keep the pay secret so it doesn't turn into an auction for scarce resources for engineering talent the way it does with lawyers, bankers, MBA's. If you're in it fore the money don't work for facebrick.

wheelerwj 10y ago
payment is relative. to the rest ofnthe world, all of the SV engineers looks grossly over paid.
- hueving 10y ago
  > to the rest ofnthe world, all of the SV engineers looks grossly over paid. Only to people who don't understand economics. I know the salaries in NYC are high as well, but I understand the cost of living that drives that.
  - wheelerwj 10y ago
    no, even to people who understand economics. the only reason the cost of living is so high in SF is because of grossly over paid employees who drive up the cost of living. its a private little island of inflation.
- herbst 10y ago
  Ive made a lower SV salary after my education in Bern Switzerland. I had to pay way less taxes, had benefits included, and cost of living was lower as well.
rhizome 10y ago
Lobbying to keep pay down? To what does this refer?

corv 10y ago

Open source is catnip for software engineers. It's worth remembering that ethics go beyond software rights.

pmlnr 10y ago

> open source everything Sure. Like they open sourced their Blu-Ray cold storage system. Oh, wait, if they do that, people will realize they should be sued for using the word "delete", since you can't remove data from Blu-Ray.

cbr 10y ago
The standard way to do this is to store the data encrypted, and store the key in something modifiable. Then when there's a delete you scramble the key.
- xg15 10y ago
  So who is auditing Facebook, making sure they actually do that?