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>Did it open in the background? Is it loading? No idea. This happens sometimes on my Mac. Along with the computer freezing or giving a black screen when I rem

>Did it open in the background? Is it loading? No idea. This happens sometimes on my Mac. Along with the computer freezing or giving a black screen when I remove an HDMI cable or other external screen, random keychain messages asking for passwords on boot, somehow losing access to my Apple account which prevented updates and required a phone call to Apple, crashes... I use Ubuntu at home and don't notice any obvious deficiencies .

matwood 10y ago
Not that I'm doubting you, but none of those have ever happened to me while using macOS. No OS is perfect, and you clearly had your share of issues with macOS, but I think the difference is that experiences like yours are the exception on macOS where on the Linux desktop they are closer to the rule. EDIT Not sure why all the down votes. Ignoring the problems is how they never get fixed. Go read all the recent threads on trying to replace a MBP with Linux that highlight the issues with desktop Linux. Power management, HiDPI, drivers, UI consistencies, etc...
- riskable 10y ago
  This may just be me but UI inconsistencies are a minor annoyance compared to the iCloud account/login fiasco that Apple regularly puts my family through. OS update? Sweet, let's apply that and see those new features... "Please login to your account to continue..." OK, this is my wife's Mac so I think the password for that is... No, that wasn't it. Alright it must be... Nope. Then it's definitely... Damnit. Now the account is locked! I'll take UI inconsistency over that garbage any day. The password is for a cloud service and not the password for the host itself. So to apply updates in Mac land you not only need the password for an account with administrative access you need the password for the 3rd party Apple account. It's an OS update! Why does it require logging in to a 3rd party service just to upgrade? Then if the account gets locked it gets locked everywhere so suddenly my wife's iPod can't install stuff or apply updates either until the account is unlocked which requires a password change which requires reentering that password on n Apple devices. I'll just deal with the minor annoyance of having to use GIMP's interface alongside Dolphin's (KDE's file manager).
  - tornadoboy55 10y ago
    Your wife uses her iCloud account as Apple login. Also, an OS update asking for a password is perfectly fine, that's called security.
  - matwood 10y ago
    You can go to App Store -> Settings and change "Free Downloads" to "Save Password". I get prompted only to sudo when doing app and OS updates. With that said, I'm still confused about this 'fiasco'. There is signing into the computer, and signing into various services. One of those services happens to be iCloud/apple account. I'm sure you are having some issues, but most do not. Everything else you're ranting about is called good security.

matwood 10y ago

Not that I'm doubting you, but none of those have ever happened to me while using macOS. No OS is perfect, and you clearly had your share of issues with macOS, but I think the difference is that experiences like yours are the exception on macOS where on the Linux desktop they are closer to the rule. EDIT Not sure why all the down votes. Ignoring the problems is how they never get fixed. Go read all the recent threads on trying to replace a MBP with Linux that highlight the issues with desktop Linux. Power management, HiDPI, drivers, UI consistencies, etc...

riskable 10y ago
This may just be me but UI inconsistencies are a minor annoyance compared to the iCloud account/login fiasco that Apple regularly puts my family through. OS update? Sweet, let's apply that and see those new features... "Please login to your account to continue..." OK, this is my wife's Mac so I think the password for that is... No, that wasn't it. Alright it must be... Nope. Then it's definitely... Damnit. Now the account is locked! I'll take UI inconsistency over that garbage any day. The password is for a cloud service and not the password for the host itself. So to apply updates in Mac land you not only need the password for an account with administrative access you need the password for the 3rd party Apple account. It's an OS update! Why does it require logging in to a 3rd party service just to upgrade? Then if the account gets locked it gets locked everywhere so suddenly my wife's iPod can't install stuff or apply updates either until the account is unlocked which requires a password change which requires reentering that password on n Apple devices. I'll just deal with the minor annoyance of having to use GIMP's interface alongside Dolphin's (KDE's file manager).
- tornadoboy55 10y ago
  Your wife uses her iCloud account as Apple login. Also, an OS update asking for a password is perfectly fine, that's called security.
- matwood 10y ago
  You can go to App Store -> Settings and change "Free Downloads" to "Save Password". I get prompted only to sudo when doing app and OS updates. With that said, I'm still confused about this 'fiasco'. There is signing into the computer, and signing into various services. One of those services happens to be iCloud/apple account. I'm sure you are having some issues, but most do not. Everything else you're ranting about is called good security.