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>Of course if you have a removable battery this is only a momentary inconvenience. Just slap in a fresh one and you're working again in less than 1 minute. Ass

>Of course if you have a removable battery this is only a momentary inconvenience. Just slap in a fresh one and you're working again in less than 1 minute. Assuming you have an extra removable battery charged and on your person at the time, and you still need to shutdown your device to do it. And assuming you want to either juggle charging multiple batteries in the phone, or you get an external charger.

nradov 10y ago
The batteries are small and easy to stick in a pocket. External chargers cost only a few dollars. It's really easy to deal with, much more convenient than carrying an external battery that you then have to plug into your phone's USB port to recharge the internal battery.
- Klathmon 10y ago
  I can't say I agree in the slightest. From only being able to provide power to a single device, handling a battery which is not meant to be handled that way (don't puncture or bend that, or have it touch anything which could cause a short), and charging it outside what it was designed to be charged in (i'd be extremely wary of using a few-dollar external battery charger...), carrying extra internal batteries is a much worse experience. IMO modern fast-charging is significantly better (at least to me). Being able to charge up 50% in like 15 minutes is huge. And if that's not available, external battery packs are not only safer to carry, but can hold more juice, work on multiple devices (even at once), and are easier to recharge. That being said, I think manufacturers could make it easier to change out batteries in phones even with non-removable batteries (in other words, make one-time replacements easier to do on your own). But I just don't see having to carry multiple batteries with you as a good solution.
  - nradov 10y ago
    The Samsung removable batteries are durable and safe to handle. They come with lightweight plastic cases. The external chargers are also made by Samsung and have the same charging circuitry as the matching phones. And the (small and light) chargers themselves also double as battery carrying cases. Next time perhaps you should actually try out the alternatives before criticizing things you haven't used yourself and don't understand.
    - Klathmon 10y ago
      I've not only used them but was very nearly burned by carrying an internal battery in my pocket when I owned an LG G2x. It shorted on something in my pocket and not only got hot enough to burn me, but also swelled up to 2x its size. And I also know that the OEM samsung external battery chargers are $40+ which is quite a long ways away from "a few dollars", and there are MANY fakes and dangerous counterfeits out there not only for the chargers but for the batteries themselves. And even if they were safe and external chargers were as cheap as you say, i'd still prefer fast-charging and/or external battery packs over them.
      - nradov 10y ago
        I'm not sure what point you're trying to make? Of course it's not a good idea to carry batteries with exposed terminals, which is exactly why Samsung includes plastic cases for them. And if you're already spending ~$800 for a high-end smartphone then an extra $45 for an external charger and battery kit doesn't seem like much. In practice Samsung usually sends customers an accessories coupon code when they register a new smartphone purchase on the web site, so the actual battery kit price ends up being even cheaper.
        Klathmon 10y ago
        The point I'm making is that when it comes to battery-life, I prefer fast-charging over removable batteries, and that if fast charging isn't available that moment or on that device, I still prefer an external battery charger over replaceable batteries. It's cheaper, more versatile, safer, and more convenient to use for me.
- darpa_escapee 10y ago
  Yep. I used to keep a charged battery in an antistatic pouch in my wallet before non-replaceable batteries became a thing.

nradov 10y ago

The batteries are small and easy to stick in a pocket. External chargers cost only a few dollars. It's really easy to deal with, much more convenient than carrying an external battery that you then have to plug into your phone's USB port to recharge the internal battery.

Klathmon 10y ago
I can't say I agree in the slightest. From only being able to provide power to a single device, handling a battery which is not meant to be handled that way (don't puncture or bend that, or have it touch anything which could cause a short), and charging it outside what it was designed to be charged in (i'd be extremely wary of using a few-dollar external battery charger...), carrying extra internal batteries is a much worse experience. IMO modern fast-charging is significantly better (at least to me). Being able to charge up 50% in like 15 minutes is huge. And if that's not available, external battery packs are not only safer to carry, but can hold more juice, work on multiple devices (even at once), and are easier to recharge. That being said, I think manufacturers could make it easier to change out batteries in phones even with non-removable batteries (in other words, make one-time replacements easier to do on your own). But I just don't see having to carry multiple batteries with you as a good solution.
- nradov 10y ago
  The Samsung removable batteries are durable and safe to handle. They come with lightweight plastic cases. The external chargers are also made by Samsung and have the same charging circuitry as the matching phones. And the (small and light) chargers themselves also double as battery carrying cases. Next time perhaps you should actually try out the alternatives before criticizing things you haven't used yourself and don't understand.
  - Klathmon 10y ago
    I've not only used them but was very nearly burned by carrying an internal battery in my pocket when I owned an LG G2x. It shorted on something in my pocket and not only got hot enough to burn me, but also swelled up to 2x its size. And I also know that the OEM samsung external battery chargers are $40+ which is quite a long ways away from "a few dollars", and there are MANY fakes and dangerous counterfeits out there not only for the chargers but for the batteries themselves. And even if they were safe and external chargers were as cheap as you say, i'd still prefer fast-charging and/or external battery packs over them.
    - nradov 10y ago
      I'm not sure what point you're trying to make? Of course it's not a good idea to carry batteries with exposed terminals, which is exactly why Samsung includes plastic cases for them. And if you're already spending ~$800 for a high-end smartphone then an extra $45 for an external charger and battery kit doesn't seem like much. In practice Samsung usually sends customers an accessories coupon code when they register a new smartphone purchase on the web site, so the actual battery kit price ends up being even cheaper.
      - Klathmon 10y ago
        The point I'm making is that when it comes to battery-life, I prefer fast-charging over removable batteries, and that if fast charging isn't available that moment or on that device, I still prefer an external battery charger over replaceable batteries. It's cheaper, more versatile, safer, and more convenient to use for me.
darpa_escapee 10y ago
Yep. I used to keep a charged battery in an antistatic pouch in my wallet before non-replaceable batteries became a thing.