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> we might see a 32g model next year? Wasn't this year supposed to be when 32GB landed?

by s_kilk 10y ago

toyg 10y ago
And it would have landed, if Apple had not decided to arbitrarily shrink their batteries, hence requiring low-power options for their components (in this case, RAM) that are not available yet.
- Bud 10y ago
  No, it wouldn't. And no, the slightly smaller battery was not "arbitrary". And thirdly, no, it's not that LPDDR isn't available; it's that this generation of Intel CPUs usable in a laptop don't support the current generation of LPDDR yet. In other words, it's Intel's fault, not Apple's, as posted above.
  - toyg 10y ago
    > this generation of Intel CPUs usable in a laptop Dell XPS says hi. I don't care if it doesn't have much battery life - give me the choice, dammit. If I wanted ultraportability and umpteen hours on battery, I would have bought an Air. > the slightly smaller battery was not "arbitrary" I must have missed the day a tank threatened to blow up Cupertino unless they reduced the battery size. Again, nobody asked them to have an MBP as thin as an Air. It was an arbitrary choice, and (IMHO, of course) a bad one.
    - TheCoelacanth 10y ago
      The XPS 15 has pretty solid battery life if you get one with the larger battery size and the FHD screen instead of the UHD screen.
rbanffy 10y ago
Would have been if Intel had released a 32GB capable mobile chip that's not slower than the last generation. Probably it got delayed after the overall shape and size were set in stone, so Apple had to go with the previous gen and work a miracle. Or it was a conscious decision since this shape/size will be the base of all laptops for the next few processor generations and will be supported for the next 10 years or so.
- skizm 10y ago
  How does the Dell XPS 15in or the Razer Blade laptops have 32gb of ram if Intel doesn't support that much? Do they use different chips in their laptops?
  - otalp 10y ago
    Because the chips aren't optimised for that much RAM they sacrifice a lot of battery life. Apple could theoretically ship these MacBook Pros with 32 gigs, but their battery life would probably be halved.
    - Bud 10y ago
      More like quartered, from what I've read, i.e., reduced by 3/4. Those gaming laptops which use full-power desktop RAM also weigh 8-10 lb and they STILL have terrible battery life. They are effectively unusable without being plugged in.
      - FireBeyond 10y ago
        The Razer Blade weighs 4.6lb, and the XPS 4.4. Not "eight to ten pounds".
        Bud 10y ago
        The Razer Blade Pro also has a laughable battery life: 2 hrs 45 min for WEB SURFING. That's hilarious. What that means is, probably less than an hour of battery life if you are actually gaming, which is the raison d'etre of this laptop. Laughable. What would people say if Apple made a high-end professional machine with half an hour of battery life? We'd never hear the end of it. Perfectly acceptable in the PC world, though. Nice cherry-picking, though. The desktop-replacement gaming laptops category in general is indeed 8-11 pounds, just like I was saying: Asus ROG G701V: 8.2 lb MSI Titan SLI: 11.6 lb Origin Eon17: 12.8 lb Razer Blade Pro is 7.8 lb in the review I found, btw. Here: http://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/laptops/razer-blade-pro http://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/laptops/razer-blade-pro

> we might see a 32g model next year? Wasn't this year supposed to be when 32GB landed?

by s_kilk 10y ago

> we might see a 32g model next year? Wasn't this year supposed to be when 32GB landed?

toyg 10y ago

And it would have landed, if Apple had not decided to arbitrarily shrink their batteries, hence requiring low-power options for their components (in this case, RAM) that are not available yet.

Bud 10y ago
No, it wouldn't. And no, the slightly smaller battery was not "arbitrary". And thirdly, no, it's not that LPDDR isn't available; it's that this generation of Intel CPUs usable in a laptop don't support the current generation of LPDDR yet. In other words, it's Intel's fault, not Apple's, as posted above.
- toyg 10y ago
  > this generation of Intel CPUs usable in a laptop Dell XPS says hi. I don't care if it doesn't have much battery life - give me the choice, dammit. If I wanted ultraportability and umpteen hours on battery, I would have bought an Air. > the slightly smaller battery was not "arbitrary" I must have missed the day a tank threatened to blow up Cupertino unless they reduced the battery size. Again, nobody asked them to have an MBP as thin as an Air. It was an arbitrary choice, and (IMHO, of course) a bad one.
  - TheCoelacanth 10y ago
    The XPS 15 has pretty solid battery life if you get one with the larger battery size and the FHD screen instead of the UHD screen.

rbanffy 10y ago

Would have been if Intel had released a 32GB capable mobile chip that's not slower than the last generation. Probably it got delayed after the overall shape and size were set in stone, so Apple had to go with the previous gen and work a miracle. Or it was a conscious decision since this shape/size will be the base of all laptops for the next few processor generations and will be supported for the next 10 years or so.

skizm 10y ago
How does the Dell XPS 15in or the Razer Blade laptops have 32gb of ram if Intel doesn't support that much? Do they use different chips in their laptops?
- otalp 10y ago
  Because the chips aren't optimised for that much RAM they sacrifice a lot of battery life. Apple could theoretically ship these MacBook Pros with 32 gigs, but their battery life would probably be halved.
  - Bud 10y ago
    More like quartered, from what I've read, i.e., reduced by 3/4. Those gaming laptops which use full-power desktop RAM also weigh 8-10 lb and they STILL have terrible battery life. They are effectively unusable without being plugged in.
    - FireBeyond 10y ago
      The Razer Blade weighs 4.6lb, and the XPS 4.4. Not "eight to ten pounds".
      - Bud 10y ago
        The Razer Blade Pro also has a laughable battery life: 2 hrs 45 min for WEB SURFING. That's hilarious. What that means is, probably less than an hour of battery life if you are actually gaming, which is the raison d'etre of this laptop. Laughable. What would people say if Apple made a high-end professional machine with half an hour of battery life? We'd never hear the end of it. Perfectly acceptable in the PC world, though. Nice cherry-picking, though. The desktop-replacement gaming laptops category in general is indeed 8-11 pounds, just like I was saying: Asus ROG G701V: 8.2 lb MSI Titan SLI: 11.6 lb Origin Eon17: 12.8 lb Razer Blade Pro is 7.8 lb in the review I found, btw. Here: http://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/laptops/razer-blade-pro http://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/laptops/razer-blade-pro